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The Pro-Life Leader Who Is Also an Exorcist [Renowned exorcist - HARRY POTTER opens gates to evil]
Inside Catholic ^ | 11/22/10 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 11/22/2010 10:20:36 AM PST by null and void

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To: Siena Dreaming

I’ve never considered magic her theme: Good vs. evil, love and sacrifice, destructiveness of power, destructiveness of hate and vengeance, importance of knowledge, yes. Magic is just an ability that most of the characters possess.


61 posted on 11/22/2010 11:40:06 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: All

I can’t believe people actually believe this stuff. Aside from the obvious references to current books, this article sounds like it could have been written in the dark ages.


62 posted on 11/22/2010 11:40:46 AM PST by dinodino (MRS. Dinodino)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Rowling is a member of the Church of England. So I don’t think she is anti-Christian.

Yes, she is a leftie, but more of the well-intentioned/ill-informed variety, rather than the well-informed/ill-intentioned.

She was a Gordon Brown supporter, so clearly she is an idiot about politics.

But her books are great.


63 posted on 11/22/2010 11:41:36 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: 1000 silverlings

That is a lengthy comment for one who has not read the books.

Read them and see for yourself.


64 posted on 11/22/2010 11:42:53 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: null and void

Imagine if there was a way to combine a Potter and a Linclon thread.... It would implode under it’s own psychopathology.


65 posted on 11/22/2010 11:45:12 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: goodwithagun

“I personally would not want to read the book, but I would not criticize someone else for it. The moment we start burning books is the moment we go back to 1933.”

Please see your post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2629885/posts?page=41#41

+++++++++++++++

“Also, “sculls” is spelled “skulls.””

BTW, it is considered rude to correct someone’s misspellings online - even if you teach literature.


66 posted on 11/22/2010 11:45:16 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jerry557

IMO,a praying Christian is protected from the spirits that would do her soul harm.This is a Biblical promise.


67 posted on 11/22/2010 11:46:54 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: tacticalogic

“One is fact, one is fiction”

Not necessarily.

“Why would only fictional accounts have this effect, while factual / historically accurate accounts do not?”

Because, one (for the most part) is simply relaying facts, while the other is capable of editorializing to a great degree and possibly glamorizing a lifestyle.


68 posted on 11/22/2010 11:50:21 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Retired Greyhound; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
I would rather spend my time reading and studying God's word, but that's my decision, and I dont tell other people what they should read.

I understand also that Rowling considers *death an adventure* and that Harry can decide to either be alive or be dead. Interesting dont you think? So old Harry has the *magical* powers to conquer death apparently.

69 posted on 11/22/2010 11:50:42 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: goodwithagun
Magic is just an ability that most of the characters possess.

Exactly. And they say impressionable kids aren't going to want to explore that? Many say the kids in the movie use magic just to "overcome evil". So what keeps young viewers from wanting to experiment with "white magic" also?

Lots of kids can just go the movies and have a good time. But I have no problem understanding why this priest says a lot of kids believe the stuff on the screen (as kids will do) and think they can get involved with magic also.

It's a no-brainer.

70 posted on 11/22/2010 11:50:57 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Imagine if there was a way to combine a Potter and a Linclon thread.... It would implode under it’s own psychopathology.

Hmmmmmm. Must be some way we can work in Apple v PC...

71 posted on 11/22/2010 11:52:15 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 671 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: goat granny

One of my favorite To Kill a Mockingbird quotes:

“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)... There are just some kind of men who - who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” Miss Maudie Atkinson

And for the record, just because I love this book does not mean that I think men should be falsely accused of rape, especially because of their race.


72 posted on 11/22/2010 11:53:21 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Because, one (for the most part) is simply relaying facts, while the other is capable of editorializing to a great degree and possibly glamorizing a lifestyle.

So why then do serial killers tend to collect newspaper clippings, rather than novels?

73 posted on 11/22/2010 11:53:25 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: null and void

Some gold buggery and Ron Paul too.


74 posted on 11/22/2010 11:54:08 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Rowling is a member of the Church of England. So I don’t think she is anti-Christian.

Would that be like saying that Pelosi is a good Catholic so would never, ever do anything harmful to the cause of christianity? Please. Pelosi's one of the wickedest socialists out there.

I would have real hard time believing that Rowling is a good christian since her heroes are communists.

Most likely she is a political activist (supporting Brown supports my theory) and propograting anti-christian themes among the young is a real good way to be active in her cause.

75 posted on 11/22/2010 11:55:46 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: null and void

Don’t you just hate it when you’re trying to walk somewhere, reading your Harry Potter book, and suddenly the Gates of Hell open up before you?

What a waste of time. Always makes me late...


76 posted on 11/22/2010 11:57:02 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

“Harry Potter is replete with Christian themes. Good vs. Evil, loyalty, sacrifice, Love...anyone who thinks otherwise has not read the books.”

Well, good vs Evil is a “theme” in Das Capital but that doesn’t make it consistent with Christianity. “Love” is a theme of “Lolita” but that doesn’t make it consistent with Christianity. Dianetics talks about loyalty between Scientologists and to their organization . . . and on and on.

This “theme” argument seems to me a rationalization by Christian parents who don’t want to make a hard decision to keep this stuff out of their children’s lives. Every culture and religion deals with love, loyalty, friendship etc. and their art reflects that. So almost any book can be rationalized as consistent with Christianity by the theme argument. The real question is, are those universal “themes” accompanied by other themes that are not consistent with Christianity? Das Kapital, Lolita and Dianetics have other themes in them that are odious and children should not be exposed to “Cool Kids are communists” books, imho.

The theme of Harry Potter that actually has to do with God
and Christianity is:

“The really cool kids do occult stuff, they win and everything turns out OK. People who don’t do occult (Muggles) are incredibly square and to be patronized and tolerated.”

It’s marketing—no different than: “Cool guys drink our beer and beautiful women hang with them” except, of course, the subject matter being marketed.

Whether intentionally or not, Harry Potter is incredibly effective marketing for the occult. I suspect the author just doesn’t believe in demons and thinks it’s a rousing good story, which the first movie was (I went to see it to screen it for my boy).

If you don’t believe there is a devil and demons, then just say so. If you are not Christian, just say so. But don’t portray the book as “consistent with Christianity because of it’s themes;” because it is not.

If you believe in demons and are a professing Christian, then the Bible is unambiguous about the role the occult should play in a Christian’s life. Based on that, it has always seemed to me that giving your kids occult marketing materials was a, duh, really bad idea. But I know a lot of professing Christians disagree.

I realize this is a very unpopular opinion to express on FR and the pile-on will now commence. But the author of the Bible wasn’t running for class president and I’m just a Muggle, who could never win a popularity contest anyway.


77 posted on 11/22/2010 11:57:45 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: PetroniusMaximus

It is rude to put words into someone’s mouth, as you chose to do by stating that me refusing to answer a question does in fact answer your question. When you did that, my gloves came off. You are not capable of having a decent discussion or debate. Also, according to Webster, “scull” is “an oar worked from side to side over the stern of a boat.”


78 posted on 11/22/2010 11:57:48 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

You “understand” incorrectly. Read the books, then make a comment. If you don’t want to read the books, you probably should make comments about what you don’t know.


79 posted on 11/22/2010 11:59:53 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: tacticalogic

“So why then do serial killers tend to collect newspaper clippings, rather than novels?”

Why do the collect pornography?


80 posted on 11/22/2010 12:00:06 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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