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Eric Cantor: We’ll have a preexisting conditions provision in our new health-care plan too
Hotair ^ | 12/01/2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/01/2010 8:42:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RexBeach
That means that if you get diagnosed with a terminal illness, you can still buy an insurance policy after you get the news.

Perhaps this is true, but it would NOT necessarily kill the insurance company. In fact, I have a life insurance policy that includes a provision very similar to this. One of the benefits I have with this policy is that I am permitted during the course of my life to increase my coverage by pre-set amounts periodically -- regardless of my medical condition at any given time.

Of course, I do pay a higher annual premium for this kind of life insurance policy. But the insurance company is very comfortable with this arrangement.

21 posted on 12/01/2010 9:02:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: UCANSEE2
Is being ‘sick’ of work a covered pre-existing condition?

Yes. I know someone (notice I do not call her a friend) who is collecting permanent disability from the mental trauma of commuting 60 miles each way to work for ten years. I've been doing it for fifteen, and expect to do it at least ten more.

22 posted on 12/01/2010 9:03:48 AM PST by nina0113
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Covering pre-existing conditions is a ‘feel good’ measure”

Exactly. Since voters love free things and are easily scared, they’re all for it. Republicans, being whores, will give it to them. Nevermind its fundamental stupidity.

Demagogues, due to “poverty in the midst of plenty” horror stories of unfortunates who lost coverage through no fault of their own, currently have credence on the issue. They can convince people that there but for the grace of God go them without insurance. However, NO ONE will long have insurance if this passes. Why? Because it’s like forcing bicycle manufacturers to suddenly start producing aircraft carriers. That’s simply not what insurance is.

Democrats know this. It’s the whole point: they want private insurance to collapse. If we fall into that trap we deserve socialism. For there’s another answer, too good and obvious for any politician to see. Sever insurance from employment. BAM!, problem solved.


23 posted on 12/01/2010 9:06:55 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
“We too don’t want to accept any insurance company’s denial of someone and coverage for that person because he or she may have pre-existing condition,” Cantor said
BS - Cantor's DC phone ... (202) 225-2815
24 posted on 12/01/2010 9:06:59 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: tips up

“Yes it’s nice to cover preexisting conditions”

No, it’s not.


25 posted on 12/01/2010 9:09:05 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Sever insurance from employment. BAM!, problem solved.

Exactly.

26 posted on 12/01/2010 9:09:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind
At the end of the day Republicans cannot put laws into effect which force private companies out of business, giving us nationalized health care by default- which is Obama’s plan.

Wise up Republicans!

27 posted on 12/01/2010 9:09:13 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cantor is worthless and should be primaried out of office at the first opportunity. He’s another in a long line of Democrat-Lite Republicans who have spent us into bankruptcy.


28 posted on 12/01/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: nina0113; JustSurrounded
"If I have the pre-existing condition of diabetes, does that affect my insurability for breast cancer? Are we talking about adjusting rates for risk factors, or refusing entirely to insure any but the perfectly healthy?"

Those are actually great questions.

The problem is that because of government intervention, I believe that insurance companies (in at least many states) are precluded from foreclosing coverage for a particular ailment, yet allow coverage for other ailments. You either have total coverage, or you have no coverage. I think that Obamacare takes it one step further and prohibits coverage just for catastrophic events, which would make sense for the youthful and otherwise healthy.

Again, I don't pretend to have all or even any answers, but I'm not convinced that demanding insurers cover preexisting conditions is going to solve anyone's problem, at least in the long-term.

As an aside, many of these issues stem from the fact that almost all the people who do have insurance, obtained it via their employers. You lose your job, you lose your insurance. The issues would probably be more manageable if we had individual or family plans as opposed to group plans and that plan wasn't tied to an employer, but to individuals. Unfortunately, that's not going to change, because our current model is far too ubiquitous.

29 posted on 12/01/2010 9:10:51 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Senior Chief

I was worried that a vote for Bayne was a vote for Waugh. 2012 will be different.


30 posted on 12/01/2010 9:12:41 AM PST by albie
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To: nina0113

“Are we talking about adjusting rates for risk factors, or refusing entirely to insure any but the perfectly healthy?”

You know very well there’s a market for covering the less than perfectly healthy.


31 posted on 12/01/2010 9:13:34 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

FYI ping:

“correction” from Cantor on obamacare -— (or was their office barraged with phone calls?)


32 posted on 12/01/2010 9:17:57 AM PST by thouworm
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To: SeekAndFind

Folks, I just called Cantor’s DC office and spoke with one of his interns (Megan ...very nice young lady!) and expressed the concern we have about the Republicans wanting to rework the flawed “pre-exisiting condtion” crap! She went to check with Cantor’s staffer, and ll they told her was, “Rep. Cantor wants to repeal the entirety of Obamacare.

I explained to Megan that even if we repeal Obamacare and come up with a Republican version; if it includes any type of “pre-existing condition” provision, this will still result in a one payer, government insurance system. I told her to tell the staffers, we didn’t elect these guys to give us democrat light healthcare!

Guys, please take a second to call and express your concern! His DC Office is accepting phone calls! Please be polite to Megan...she’s just an intern. If you need to scream, ask for a staffer! We must flood the lines and put these people on notice!

Washington, DC

329 Cannon Building
Washington, DC 20515
P: 202.225-2815
F: 202.225-0011

Richmond

4201 Dominion Blvd, #110
Glen Allen, VA 23060
P: 804.747-4073
F: 804.747-5308

Culpeper

763 Madison Rd #207
Culpeper, VA 22701
P: 540.825-8960
F: 540.825-8964


33 posted on 12/01/2010 9:24:28 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Alberta's Child

Good point, AC!


34 posted on 12/01/2010 9:27:17 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: RexBeach
This will kill insurance companies all by itself(pre-existing condition immunity). That means that if you get diagnosed with a terminal illness, you can still buy an insurance policy after you get the news.

From what I have been receiving from my health insurance carriers you will not be able to buy a health insurance policy at any time. ie. get diagnosed with a terminal illness and then be able to go out and buy a policy.

No one knows the exact details but just like Medicare part D for instance you only have certain times to sign up and if you miss those times you have to wait for the next enrollment period and you are also penalized $$ for not signing up when you should have.

Hipaa group plans also have waiting periods for pre-ex if you miss the intitial enrollment period.

I suspect the individual plans will be the same way.

35 posted on 12/01/2010 9:29:45 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: eCSMaster

I don’t.


36 posted on 12/01/2010 9:30:06 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: RexBeach

Having to cover pre-existing conditions won’t kill insurance companies. It just means the premiums for people who are not sick will go sky high to pay for the sick.
I am surprised that people haven’t figured this out yet.


37 posted on 12/01/2010 9:30:13 AM PST by sheana
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To: SeekAndFind
Bullcrap!

What's it going to take to convince these jackasses the only health care reform we need is LOWER PRICES THROUGH TORT REFORM!

Anything less is an attempt to preserve the institutional parasites.

38 posted on 12/01/2010 9:34:25 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Vendome
Hey, lets extend this idea to car insurance! Go uninsured, then have an accident, then take out a policy at no additional charge, and get your car fixed! Wow, what a great idea! Cantor - we are watching you sir and right now you are on very thin ice!
39 posted on 12/01/2010 9:38:58 AM PST by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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To: eCSMaster

How does the govt. FLOOD INSURANCE thing work??? Could that be applied to pre-existing condition people where they can pay a HIGHER premium than the rest of us who don’t have Preexisting conditions OR live in a FLOOD ZONE. Can anyone explain how the FLOOD INSURANCE works???


40 posted on 12/01/2010 9:39:58 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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