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The Return Of The Minivan
Reason.com ^ | 6 Jan 2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 01/06/2011 9:22:43 AM PST by Notary Sojac

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To: the invisib1e hand

“Most dangerous vehicles on the road”

I once had a trauma surgeon tell me the same thing. The sliding door on the side give it zero integrity in a side-impact crash or a rollover. The whole roof can cave in, too, due to the design of the door. Or so he claimed.


21 posted on 01/06/2011 10:04:11 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: redgolum

“Why do you think the classic mid life crisis thing is for men to get a sports car or motorcycle.”

Don’t get me wrong, I understand the love affair with vehicles. I love cars. But, I don’t see myself as being defined by my car. I don’t let image define my need. I needed a minivan, and I thought anyone who would think less of me because I drove one was not playing with a full deck.

As a driver, I prefer cars. They are more nimble, and just more enjoyable to drive.


22 posted on 01/06/2011 10:07:32 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Notary Sojac

1993 Ford Aerostar and 2001 Toyota Sienna - both workhorses for my family, even if my wife IS now ready to get out of the minivan zone.

Colonel, USAFR


23 posted on 01/06/2011 10:08:52 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Notary Sojac

My 10 year old Jeep Cherokee XJ will drag your minivan over the river and through the woods and on to Grandmas house.

Not under warranty? Buy some tools and fix it yourself!

Minivans are for wussies.


24 posted on 01/06/2011 10:09:11 AM PST by Macoozie (Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

We’ve got two minivans and an SUV, among other vehicles.

The Expedition is wonderful. For a large, luxury vehicle, it has great capabilities. A few seasons ago, during a kid’s snow derby in the Cascade Mountains, I tried to get it stuck. I was intrigued by a patch of rolling, unplowed, ground. Other dads were around for extraction if I got into trouble. No problems! The thing ground through grille-high snow and got me back to the road.

However, mostly the SUV sits. We just moved, and the older minivan (Dodge Grand Caravan) has been a Jack-of-all-trades. I’ve been using it as a pick-up truck to the dump, cargo hauler, and bus. We keep taking the seats in and out, in, and out, people, cargo, people, cargo. I was shocked when the riding lawn tractor fit.

As far as image projection goes, I’ve found I can be a snarling predator in any vehicle I drive. But mostly, I’m just a nice guy.


25 posted on 01/06/2011 10:12:00 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: surroundedbyblue

“I once had a trauma surgeon tell me the same thing. The sliding door on the side give it zero integrity in a side-impact crash or a rollover. The whole roof can cave in, too, due to the design of the door. Or so he claimed.”

My auto mechanic said to avoid ERs, trauma surgeons are the most dangerous types of physicians.


26 posted on 01/06/2011 10:13:39 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

depends on the off-roading. i’ve seen lots of exploders, blazers, jimmys, rav4s, highlanders, samouris- all manner of suvs on the dunes and throughout state parks in MI.


27 posted on 01/06/2011 10:15:00 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Notary Sojac

Dirt track minivan racing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_395TMhnSg

Not too much different from Saturday afternoon in the mall parking lot.


28 posted on 01/06/2011 10:19:09 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: surroundedbyblue
I once had a trauma surgeon tell me the same thing. The sliding door on the side give it zero integrity in a side-impact crash or a rollover. The whole roof can cave in, too, due to the design of the door. Or so he claimed.

Well, my mechanical engineer says necrosis released biomarkers are a good indicator of myocardial infarction.

29 posted on 01/06/2011 10:24:30 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: redgolum
I've always driven a 2-seat sports car as my personal vehicle, since long before "mid-life".

I just like driving a car that goes where I point it and stops where I want it.

I also prefer to stay safe through maneuverability rather than armor plate.

30 posted on 01/06/2011 10:25:01 AM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: brownsfan

Hey brownsfan, good schtick! We pulled the same gag twice.


31 posted on 01/06/2011 10:28:36 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: Rinnwald

lol.... well played!


32 posted on 01/06/2011 10:29:21 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Rinnwald

“Hey brownsfan, good schtick! We pulled the same gag twice.”

Yours was decidedly more elegant, but same basic premise. Great minds think alike?

It annoys me how people assign ultra competency in any area to doctors.


33 posted on 01/06/2011 10:36:32 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I’ll take half the wheels, and agree with you. Plus you sportscar guys don’t have to put up with the “Uncle Fred” stories we motorcyclists hear all the time.

You know, as soon as they see you on a motorcycle, somebody has to regale you with story about poor “Uncle Fred” who ground his face off riding one of those two-wheel hellfounts.


34 posted on 01/06/2011 10:38:51 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: brownsfan; redgolum
If you depend on the looks of the vehicle you drive to define you, I feel sorry for you.

I totally agree with you, fan. And if one allows themselves to be defined by the marketers or their vehicles, what does that say about ones true character and motivation? Don't older men who drive sports cars/motorcycles know that many are laughing at them - we don't think it's cool to cop out with mid-life crises.

35 posted on 01/06/2011 10:39:45 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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To: brownsfan

No, no, your’s was more to the point. I would have posted first if I didn’t have to look up convincing jargon on the interweb.


36 posted on 01/06/2011 10:41:52 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: PuzzledInTX

“Don’t older men who drive sports cars/motorcycles know that many are laughing at them - we don’t think it’s cool to cop out with mid-life crises.”

Be careful now. Not all older guys who own sports cars are having a crisis. I really like sports cars. I had one, until it died, and will again. But, if you feel like laughing at me when I drive it, have at it. :)

Unlike the crisis guys, I understand that a sports car with a 50+ year old bald guy is NOT a chick magnet!


37 posted on 01/06/2011 10:45:40 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I aint ever buying a milfvan...er, I mean minivan.


38 posted on 01/06/2011 10:54:35 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Like Notary Sojac said, do we get a pass if we were into the activity in our youth? Perhaps an international hand gesture indicating our status? I’m not ready for the home and wheelchair yet.

I’ve been given a slide from veteran cops when I pull off my helmet and they see a graybeard instead of a squid. From younger troopers, not so much.


39 posted on 01/06/2011 10:55:17 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: brownsfan

Agreed. I should have been more careful in my word selection. A mid-life crisis guy is identifiable by his comportment.


40 posted on 01/06/2011 11:00:00 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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