Posted on 01/24/2011 7:07:13 PM PST by bronkburnett
yes. how can we get lots of people to do it? these Freepers will not do it. it is hard to get Freepers to read the actual article. they would rather make sarcastic remarks than to actually do something. So how can we get lots of people to send letters to Boenher and Cantor?
That is a devastatingly good question. I agree with you about the FR community; it is entirely too easy to get caught up in agreeing with compatriots and arguing with trolls and SPs. It can be very time consuming and ultimately counterproductive.
Isn’t it WND that is funding the big ‘Where’s the BC’ billboards? Maybe someone there would be interested in spearheading a letter-email-phone calling campaign. It has to be someone with high visibility, and they have been on top of this issue from the beginning. It would be nice if one of the conservative talkers would do it, but even Rush is treading lightly on it. WND would seem the best bet, fwiw.
Shame on you!!!
Now you just made him crying at the lectern???
Your sins are forgiven when asked!!!
However, who have said he is NOT a U.S. citizen???
So WHY did the very first birthers needed the Senate Res 511???
Many. There is NO document establishing his place of birth. NONE.... It is even uncertain that his father is Barrack H. Obama, Sr. There is no evidence where Stanley Ann ever lived with Barrack H. Obama, Sr. in HI. There was a newspaper announcement listing them as parents for a son, but they never lived at that address. This is a total FRAUD.
He can only be a "natural born" U.S. Citizen (as required by the Constitution for Presidents) if someone other than Barrack H. Obama, Sr. is his father. Because Barrack H. Obama, Sr. never was a U.S. citizen.
Wish I could answer your post intelligently. What was Senate Resolution 511?
Did you really read my question???
Don’t you think is ironic that the illegal alien and usurper in the “Whit-Hut” is there very first “birther” signing the Resolution that John McPain is a NBC???
Yes, but might not have understood what you stated.
Thanks to all for your detailed answers. This issue seems to hinge on the definition of “natural born citizen”. That is undefined in the Constitution, probably because it was well understood. However, us ignoramuses of the 21st century need to have a legal definition to remove the stigmua of “crazy” from “birther”.
The decision I know of is the one where John McCain was ruled a natural born citizen. He had two American parents and was born in the US Canal Zone. This is consistent with your “Optimo Jure” section.
James Taranto of the WSJ contends that his US citizenship of his mother makes him a NBC regardless of his birthplace or father’s citizenship. He felt the law that required Stanley to be of sufficient age and residence duration was not a determining factor, since it was a state law. The federal law determines who is a citizen, not the state. I haven’t seen anyone refute his claims in his article, so I posited them here.
Once again, we have an issue obfuscated by ad hominem and lack of facts: what is the ruling law concerning the definition of NBC? The speculation that Obama might be the son of Frank Marshall is interesting, but not relevant to the legal question. I see several have stated that Obama gave up his dual citizenship—where is that documented?
I was referring to a U.S. citizen, again U.S. citizen!!!
Something is baking in the oven in line with your suggestions???
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=255965
Can I borrow your ping list to reply 54?
Snip...The result is that none of the court cases to date has reached the level of discovery, through which Obama's birth documentation could be brought into court.
And that is because..
Those cases, however, almost all have been facing hurdles created by the courts' interpretation of "standing,"...
"If we as an entity of civil government don't follow the laws, then what makes us think that our citizens are going to obey anything we enact? We need to lead by example." Rep. Bobby Franklin
“Can I borrow your ping list to reply 54?”
Sure.
philman_36; Hotlanta Mike; Cen-Tejas; Texas Fossil; MHGinTN; Two Kids’ Dad; spokeshave;
I went through the pings to my question and responded to all of them.
Rules for Transmitting citizenship (not Natural Born Citizenship)
Between 12/24/1952 and 11/13/1986 |
If both parents are U.S. citizens, at least one resided in the U.S. before the childs birth. |
None. |
If one parent is a U.S. citizen, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after age 14. |
None. |
James Taranto is wrong. See my post #58 for reference. Have seen others stating same, it is not state law but U.S. Immigration policy written into the law of the land. Most people reference the 1952 Immigration Act, I did not find the info there but it is Federal Law.
If BHO was born abroad and his parents were Barrack H. Obama, Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham, he would not have U.S. Citizenship at all under the prevailing law when he is reported to have been born.
Stanley Ann Dunham may have under 18 when he was born, but if she were 18 she would not meet the requirement to transfer U.S. citizenship to her son.
I do not think he was born in Kenya, but suspect he might have been born in Canada. It would make no difference, as long as B H Obama, Sr. and Stanely Ann Dunham were his parents, he would not be a U.S. Citizen at all.....
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