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Round Two: Rick Perry and the Seven Dwarfs
Pajamas Media ^ | September 13th, 2011 | Roger L Simon

Posted on 09/13/2011 9:30:24 AM PDT by shield

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To: gdani
Of all the candidates there I thought he did the worst

Total nonsense.

Dr Paul's verbatim regurgitation of Al Qeda 09-11 propaganda was by far the worst performance of the debate

21 posted on 09/13/2011 9:47:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: teg_76

You are exactly right. Perry had an awful night, and he does seem slow on his feet and inarticulate. We need someone who is going to be relentless against Obama in the debates.

Newt, Bachmann and (gulp) Romney are the most relentless. That’s what I want to see.

I’m leaning Newt right now. Articulate, competent, elder statesman. He does have a lot of baggage, though.

I’m not in love with any of these candidates.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 9:48:25 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: shield

Not to throw cold water on anyone’s candidate pick, but it is worth remembering that McCain polled as low as 5 percent before the primaries began. Never underestimate the money, power and organization of the establishment. Romney is their man. It will take a lot of work and support to beat him.


23 posted on 09/13/2011 9:49:32 AM PDT by pallis
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To: shield

Pretty good analysis.


24 posted on 09/13/2011 9:49:59 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: shield

Perhaps sadly, Gardasil is more of an issue in that he backed off. That issue would probably win him votes in certain northeastern states!

So you are right. That issue is a non-starter.

I think the fact that Perry took hits from all sides is telling, and I think that is likely the impression that will be lasting among those who tuned in, and who were not already committed to a particular candidate. Getting attacked makes Perry look like a winner, the man to beat.


25 posted on 09/13/2011 9:50:28 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: org.whodat
How is that, Perry admitted what he was, now it is just a matter of establishing the price for cronyism. Wonder if it is $5001.00:

I've disagreed with you a lot before on Perry, but you have a point on this one. It was a crappy response. It made it sound (true or not) that he could be bought, just not that cheaply.

He has had plenty of experience as a politician; he should already have a better answer ready. If he wants to win the election he will need better answers for such accusations.

26 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: shield

The author sees frightening “crazy” everywhere. He should seek therapy rather making political observations concerning his paranoia.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:13 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: hsalaw

I really like Cain, too, but he is a classic “also ran”. Jovial, quick witted, but not the sharpest or most informed.

He has yet to explain “9-9-9” in a debate. I know what it is because I read about it, but he needs to lay out the details.


28 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:24 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: MNJohnnie
Total nonsense.

Dr Paul's verbatim regurgitation of Al Qeda 09-11 propaganda was by far the worst performance of the debate

I'll give you that but counter by saying the expectations for Paul are nowhere near what they are for Perry.

That Perry seemed clueless on how to answer & counter attack on those three issues shows he's got a ways to go on the national stage.

29 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:40 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Retired Greyhound
He has yet to explain “9-9-9” in a debate. I know what it is because I read about it, but he needs to lay out the details.

He did exactly that last night. And did so very succinctly which worked very well in a debate format.

30 posted on 09/13/2011 9:54:59 AM PDT by gdani
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To: shield

Rick Perry needed to do one of Reagan’s “There you go again routines” when Blitzer kept begging the other candidates to go after Perry.

Perry has many years as Governor and being in a top job for a long time is important when we pick a President.

Which is also why Obama is such a loser. He had never held an executive position.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 9:55:35 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Retired Greyhound
He has yet to explain “9-9-9” in a debate

Then you apparently have not bother to listen to him. He explained it last night as he has done any number of other occasions.

How about you all try actually listening to the candidate this time instead of letting the political pundits in the Junk Media tell you what to think about them again this election.

32 posted on 09/13/2011 9:56:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: altura
Yes. He is right on...this is how I saw it too.

Rick Perry’s Political Judo

33 posted on 09/13/2011 9:56:59 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: gdani

I don’t think Perry did worse than Huntsman or Paul. He needs to be quicker with his response. I hope he’ll improve because if he’s the nominee he’s going to get hit from all sides all the time. (Romney & Bachmann have been in the race alot longer and have their slick lines down) I thought it was a little ridiculous that everyone was attacking him. I chuckled at the expression on Perry’s face sometimes when they were all jumping on him. (except Gingrich & Cain) I’m over Bachmann. I don’t even want her in the VP slot. Romney scares me because of Romneycare - I want Obamacare overturned and I don’t know if he has the will to do it. I don’t really care about the Gardasil issue at all. Perry’s views on immigration seemed moderate to me. We might need moderation to appeal to Latino voters and not lose them forever like the blacks.

I liked how some of them are trying to appeal to younger voters on the SS issue. With the job situation and economy, this is a good time to open the eyes of some of our young people and get them to see the light.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 9:57:41 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Retired Greyhound
I can't remember if Cain did last night but he did the last debate.

"I propose my 9-9-9 plan: a straight 9% corporate tax, 9% personal income tax, and 9% federal sales tax. If 10% is good enough for God, 9% is good enough for the federal government."

35 posted on 09/13/2011 10:00:13 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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Hi, I’m kinda new here (don’t post much, just read). I agree that Perry did OK last night. He was on fire in the first hour and seemed to peter out after that (actually, Rush said the same thing this am). I wouldn’t be surprised if the MSM has already figured this out and now makes sure to give him the tougher questions later when he’s tired.

I think it’s a learning curve for Gov Perry. If he can learn from early debates, he can really improve. I never saw any improvement with GWB during debates, and it was frustrating. Hopefully Gov Perry has people advising him on how to handle the tough questions.

Newt = <3


36 posted on 09/13/2011 10:00:52 AM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: shield
I think they suspect he is going to win and are acting accordingly

No, that the stupid Media talking head dogma. It total nonsense Both Cain and Gingrich realize the way to win here is NOT play the "stir up a dog fight with the other GOP candidates" meme the Junk Media and it's assorted hangers on are pushing. They always forget you have to win the primary before you can run in the general election.

I have been in the GOP over 30 years. One thing GOP voters do not care for are those candidates who spend all their time attacking our side instead of attacking the real foes. O and the Democrats are the real target here

Perry, Gingrich and Cain are the only ones playing it smart here. The others, especially Huntsman, are making a serious error playing the Junk Media's game.

37 posted on 09/13/2011 10:02:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: shield

Excellent analysis.


38 posted on 09/13/2011 10:03:49 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: gdani

I agree with you. Perry took a huge hit. However, Huntsman without a doubt did the worst. His joke against Perry and the border fence (treasonous) fell so flat you could hear the audience groan...


39 posted on 09/13/2011 10:04:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ConservativeDude

It’s not Perry’s politics that I have a problem with. What bothers me is HE IS NOT A GOOD DEBATER..... great speaker but he seems awfully uncomfortable, and unsure of himself, in the Debates. He needs some fire in the belly and to not be so monotone. He reminds me of Fred Thompson in the ‘08 race. Good ideas and good policy but doesn’t seem hungry enough. Step it up a few notches Rick.


40 posted on 09/13/2011 10:05:32 AM PDT by no dems (No matter who it might be, when I find out a person is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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