Posted on 09/15/2011 10:03:56 AM PDT by smoothsailing
If the American people were as cowardly and ignorant as Ron Paul and his supporters we would have, as Osama expected, retreated from our involvement in the world rather than toppling the government that supported Osama, and occupying it militarily giving us the reach to take him out in Pakistan.
Luckily for the world the rest of the USA isn't as ignorant and cowardly as Ron Paul supporters.
“Even if Paul is wrong on foreign policy, his philosophy makes a lot more sense than the neo-cons and liberals. The last 10 years should be proof enough for anyone.”
This is called a logical fallacy. Refer to Logic 101, freshman college level.
“Paulsen had a lot more going for him, at least he was funny.”
Pat Paulsen also had the best campaign slogan evah!
“WE CAN’T STAND PAT”
Ron Paul is not just wrong.
He’s certifiable.
100 percent Grad A loony bin.
It was so bad, Bush's so called Homeland Security Chief Chertoff, had people wandering around the inside of his private residence, who entered the country illegally...All during wartime, while our own borders became a national security time bomb, with millions flooding into the U.S. illegally....during wartime. This is a farce.
We'll put you down for continuing these country killing, politically correct foreign policies.
Good luck taking out Osama Bin Lauden when he is sheltered and protected by the Taliban and we have no military assets in theater.
According to the Paultard delusion all we need to “take out” Muslim gangster terrorists is to retreat, lick our wounds, and stop supporting Israel - and then the mean mean bad guys will just go away and stop hating us!
Talk about weak willed fuzzy thinking politically correct cycle of violence idiocy!
But that wasn't enough, so the just opened our borders during wartime, to a conga-line of millions, from God knows where, just to keep that great foreign police machine well oiled.
Was the US in its right to invade Afghanistan, in your opinion?
Like I said, good thing the rest of America isn't as cowardly as a typical Ron Paul supporter - Osama was really counting on us doing exactly what Ron Paul advises - retreat and stop supporting Israel.
Do you actually think that such a display of their power over us would reduce such terrorist attacks rather than showing just how well they worked in changing US policy more to their liking?
Not that I expect a rational response, but hey, stranger things have happened. :)
Yes it was, but to stay for *years*, costing trillions is not acceptable and should never have been an option or strategy. So bad, now their leaders in Jackassistan complain the billions we gave them, and or went missing, was not enough, and bitched they wanted dams and other infrastructure built. All while the U.S. goes belly up.
Let me respond with the piece I wrote in response to similar errors in President Bush's address on the 5th anniversary of 9/11/01: 'Clueless'--The Dangerous Intellectual Confusion Of A President.
While I am not in complete agreement with Dr. Paul on all aspects of foreign policy; even where we differ, I would acknowledge that his stands are carefully thought out. But my point, here, is not about Dr. Paul. The writer has lumped together a number of issues, that need to be analyzed separately.
William Flax
Got breaking news for you, most Americans have had a belly full of compassionate wars, while spending the American treasure on foreign lands, while our own country and economy circle the GD drain.
“Yes it was, but to stay for *years*, costing trillions is not acceptable and should never have been an option or strategy.”
So, you agree with US Foreign Policy in Afghanistan, you just disagree with the details of the strategy.
Got breaking news for you champ, Ron Paul will never be the GOP nominee for President. He will never be President.
Americans are not cowards who allow terrorists a veto power over our foreign policy. Ron Paul is.
No, I thought I made that clear. The devil is in the details.
In fact, I disagree with 95 percent of the destructive U.S. foreign policies.
We keep continue with these strategies and foreign policies, this country will not only go completely broke, but will likely end in a total collapse of our entire system.
yeah, yeah, we get it...
America is bad.
NeoCons...
Int’l Bankers...
Jews...
Bilderbergs...
and Ron Paul the earmarks wonder can save us all...funny
After the dust starts settling a few days later, the ID of the perpetrators comes to light, how they got here, how they stayed here, where they came from, etc. I start thinking "Wow, this is it, my country is about to come down hard on immigration. It's about to get serious. This is a huge deal".
"We're going to seal the borders, no more third-world backwards imports, no more Muslims coming by the thousands, mass revocation of visas, triple INS, Marshals, FBI, rounding up people en masse for deportation".
And I waited, and I waited, and I waited. And I thought "this is nuts, what the hell is going on? We're not going to do a thing meaningful. We went to war with Japan and even US citizens of Japanese descent had to go detainee camps, let alone non-citizen visitors. WTF!?"
Then we invaded Afghanistan. And still I thought sanity would come. Then the TSA. Borders wide freakin' open and I'm taking off my belt and grandma's getting a shakedown. Tens of thousands more Muslims pour in. Then tens of thousands more the next year. Handing out visas, green cards, citizenship day in, day out.
Then we're ramping up for war with Iraq. Same thing. By then we were even giving refugee status to people from the countries we were at war with. I'm out of my mind about it at this point. We don't even have candidates running for office that so much as mention curtailing legal immigration from Muslim nations, let alone revocation and deportation.
Then it hit me. There's something about our foreign policy that is way more than meets the eye. Don't know what it is, but, there's something sinister that we don't see. And you'll never convince me otherwise. I got eyes, and I can see what's going on.
Anybody else who doesn't see this is a fool.
Border Security and Foreign policy are two distinct issues.
Conflating the issues doesn’t take away from the idiocy of Ron Paul.
But, but if Libertarians would have their way, they’d open up the Borders, hell they don’t even believe in borders.
Border Security and Foreign policy are two distinct issues.
Security is security. 90% of the people who read that post will get it. I'm not worried about the 10% who don't or the ones who get it and are dishonest about it.
You made a ramble, not a point...lol.
...In a weak attempt to conflate the issues. Just because they are both relevant to national security, doesn’t mean they are the same issue.
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