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Bachmann: Newt Gingrich is a “frugal socialist”
Hot Air ^ | DECEMBER 5, 2011 | TINA KORBE

Posted on 12/06/2011 11:46:09 AM PST by RobinMasters

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To: RobinMasters
Bachmann is now approaching air-head-bimbo class.

(Good grief!)

61 posted on 12/06/2011 12:34:39 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: parksstp
Bachmann rightfully goes after Newt on his liberal stances and some people want to throw the whole 11th Commandment thing around? EXCUSE ME? Using that absurd logic, I guess we can’t attack Mitt Romney. Nice try though.

I had the same thought about the selective application of the "11th commandment". It only seems to apply to certain candidates. As for Mitt Romney, he's afloat but dead in the water and its really kind of pointless to waste a lot of fire on him right now.

I have no problem with the candidates going after each other, its what the debates and primary season is for. Our last primary was very civil and it ended with John McCain stammering like a moron in debates with Obama.
62 posted on 12/06/2011 12:36:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: vicar7

You make a good point. Palin was always a huge, huge booster of the Tea Party, but was never presumptuous in actually considering herself a leader, nor remotely opportunistic in using it. It was a very noticeable distinction in her speeches, compared to most politicians who tried to glom on. Palin was more keyed in than anyone that this was a bottom-up ‘people’s’ movement.


63 posted on 12/06/2011 12:37:50 PM PST by greene66
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Yeah, never criticize dishonest dangerous politicians with an “R” attached to their names.


64 posted on 12/06/2011 12:42:13 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: Hugin

The Contract with America, Welfare Reform, Clinton Impeachment,

Among the first pieces of legislation passed by the new Congress under Gingrich was the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995, which subjected members of Congress to the same laws that apply to businesses and their employees, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. As a provision of the Contract with America, the law was symbolic of the new Republican majority’s goal to remove some of the entitlements enjoyed by Congress. The bill received near universal acceptance from the House and Senate and was signed into law on January 23, 1995

Gingrich was to drag Clinton to the signing table on some measures, but not on others. That led to a government shutdown when Gingrich refused to cave to Clinton. Reflecting on the impact of the government shutdown for the Republican Party, Gingrich later commented that, “Everybody in Washington thinks that was a big mistake. They’re exactly wrong. There had been no reelected Republican majority since 1928. Part of the reason we got reelected ... is our base thought we were serious. And they thought we were serious because when it came to a show-down, we didn’t flinch.” The government shutdown led to the balanced-budget deal in 1997 and the first four consecutive balanced budgets since the 1920s, as well as the first re-election of a Republican majority for the first time since 1928.

We had a strong conservative promising a strong conservative agenda and delivering. The conservative Gingrich Republican Revolution of the 1990s was a continuance of the conservative Reagan Revolution started in the 1980s. Newt was an integral part of the first and the author of the second. I would challenge the Newt-haters who insist that Gingrich is some sort of liberal to name the 3rd most important conservative political figure in modern American politics. You can’t. It’s because Reagan is #1, Gingrich is #2, and everyone else is so far back everyone else is essentially tied for last.

Has Newt Gingrich said and done some less-than-conservative things, both privately and publicly? Absolutely. So did Ronald Reagan, by which we all measure a politician’s conservatism. Reagan brought us Sandra Day O’Connor, amnesty, and some other mis-steps, but the good things that he has done so far outweigh his mistakes that we revere him today. Do you Newt-haters also hate Reagan? If not, why not? Because of Reagan’s overall record? The one that Newt helped make possible? How is Newt’s overall record any less conservative than Reagan’s? It’s not. Again, the 90’s Republican Revolution was getting the 80’s Reagan Revolution back on track after having been derailed by Bush I and Clinton.

Nice Try, but your rhetoric is way wrong and you are as ignorant as ten dozen Democrats.


65 posted on 12/06/2011 12:43:24 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: parksstp

Good assessment... Bachmann is the ONLY conservative..
There is simply no other choice unless you are a RINO..
A Rino (or moderate) on some issues..

If Santorum wasn’t so white he might have a chance..
Bachmann being a women is the only conservative with a chance..

America is awash in anti-racist racism.. maybe Oxymoronic racism..

NoN-Whites hating whites because they are white..
Even whites hating whites because they are not non-white..


66 posted on 12/06/2011 12:44:55 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t really care what Newt was doing in 1968. What he said the other night on the Huckabee forum should be more than enough to send most conservatives running the other way.

Rockefeller Republicans can't stand on any issue long is my point. The debates and his actions in the past couple of years prove who he is. Newt is not Conservative even though Newtsters like too show him sitting with Reagan. Newt was in his first or second term them. Newt would feel far more comfortable with Gerald Ford or the Bush family than any tow the line conservative. Newt is a chameleon that adapts to his surrounds and nothing more.

67 posted on 12/06/2011 12:47:40 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: vicar7
Same here and the freepers who consistently attack her are a bunch of cowards who sound exactly like the scum who attacked Sarah Palin. Being from Minnesota knowing Bachmann I would never wish her to be the nominee. She will be hard pressed to win her seat next cycle. She jumped in front of the Tea Party for political expediency. The Tea Party does not need a leader and if it did it would not be Michelle. In fact there was already a leader in Sarah Palin. Michelle jumped in front to be the majorette and the place was already taken. She needs to go back to work in the House and get ready for the next cycle.

This is exactly the type of cult talk that hurt Palin's chances.

I've lived in Minnesota my whole life and have always supported Bachmann. I know about her and I have met her and she is a rock solid conservative and would be a great presidential candidate. She was a natural to get Tea Party support because of her conservative principles and unlike other people who just talked, she took action by starting the Tea Party Caucus in the House. Sarah Palin was not, at the time, an elected official and had no ability to lead, with real votes, the way Bachmann did.

Bachmann is still slugging it out in the House standing up for conservative principles. Palin is...well I guess she's somewhere in Alaska, and has not been a factor in the debates about who should be the Republican presidential candidate.

Bachmann is intelligent and, I believe, as educated as anyone running for president. She understands the tax system better than any other candidate and has led an exemplary personal life. She lives out her Christian faith and there's not a phony bone in her body.

I don't care if you cry yourself to sleep every night because your Sarah has abandoned you, but making personal attacks on Bachmann betrays your lack of conservative values.

68 posted on 12/06/2011 12:49:25 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: RobinMasters

she is a redistributive socialist too if she never proposed completely doing away with medicare, medicade, food stamps, school lunch programs or welfare


69 posted on 12/06/2011 12:51:47 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: greene66

Someone on the ground in Iowa said the big difference between Sarah and Michele is: The folks reach out to Sarah whereas Michele reaches out to the folks. One can be right on the issues but still be in the wrong place which in my opinion is where Michele is at present. One could argue Sarah is right on the issues but in the wrong place, but that was her decision much to the chagrin of many including myself.


70 posted on 12/06/2011 12:53:58 PM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: RobinMasters

She is correct, and it is a concept that needs airing in the primary.

The vast majority of Republican politicians are essentially Socialist.


71 posted on 12/06/2011 12:57:40 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: cva66snipe

Just the other day he said he wants to eliminate the EPA (a strong tea party sentiment) Unfortunately he followed the statement up by saying he would replace it with an Environmental Solutions Agency. (A big government solution)

During the Huckabee forum he talked about the Pelosi ad and said it was a mistake because Pelosi was radioactive and it distracted from the message “which was, global warming is real and we gotta do something about it right now)


72 posted on 12/06/2011 12:58:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: frithguild
WTF!

If you are equating Newt with the PBS pervert, link your proof.

Otherwise, you are a jerk of the Democrat/Axelrod type.

73 posted on 12/06/2011 12:59:21 PM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: cripplecreek

I can be as Conservative as the next guy.

but that doesn’t get Bachman elected, and nothing else will either.


74 posted on 12/06/2011 12:59:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: hosepipe

I agree, she’s the only conservative left. This is why I started donating to her on Saturday after Cain gave up without a fight. Even Santorum is for the ethanol mandate. I hate the ethanol mandate. Here in southern Wisconsin I have found one chain that sells real gas (Kwik Trip’s Premium Gas). But if I go anywhere near Milwaukee, it’s all corn tainted gas.

I will continue to donate to a true conservative, no matter if the RINOs and repub elite claim she’s unelectable. She’s the head of the TEA Party Caucus and I am the TEA Party, I vote, and I give to true conservative candidates.

http://www.michelebachmann.com/

I join the others here that don’t settle for a RINO.


75 posted on 12/06/2011 1:03:20 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( PRAY FOR AMERICA)
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To: Prokopton

She cannot win the nomination so moving on is a good thing rather than trashing the rest of the folks. She might be the most conservative person in the race but she cannot win the nomination. I know her well I lived in Minnesota til very recently. She is great at pointing at the poop but not a leader in cleaning it up and has always been that way. If I were in her district I would for sure vote for her and she would need my vote next cycle. She has neglected her job and been AWOL in the house. Michele cannot win because she cannot be nominated it is really that simple.


76 posted on 12/06/2011 1:07:45 PM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek

You’re exactly right about her attackers, cripplecreek.
It’s sickening.


77 posted on 12/06/2011 1:09:58 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( PRAY FOR AMERICA)
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To: parksstp
I said this back in July and I’ll say it again. Anyone who bashes Bachmann for doing and saying the right thing is not a conservative. She’s totally correct with what she pointed out about Newt. Would I like to see her hammer Romney just as hard? Absolutely. But it still doesn’t take away from the fact that she is right.

Well put.

I agree that the snotty comments aimed at Michele Bachmann in this and many other threads where her name is mentioned are getting tedious and starting to mirror those that were once aimed at Sarah Palin by the left and, unfortunately, even here on FR.

Michele Bachmann made a perfectly logical and astute comment about Newt Gingrich and the alleged 'right' swarms all over her with snide put-downs stopping just short of being vile. Bachmann, like Gingrich, is in a fight for the Republican primary nomination and of course she is going to criticize her opponents. Duh! The 'Eleventh Commandment', as you noted, is too often used selectively and in my opinion, during a fight for the party's presidential primary nomination, it doesn't even apply.

Michele Bachmann is a conservative in a way that neither Romney or Gingrich ever were or are, today. She is a viable candidate and, fortunately, the voters will decide the Republican presidential nominee, not posters on political message boards. When it comes down to it, as a conservative, I would feel more comfortable voting for Michelle Bachmann, a real conservative, than the big-government Romney or Gingrich, who both talk a good game but who I simply don't trust to ever follow through on their campaign promises.

78 posted on 12/06/2011 1:10:01 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: RobinMasters

Bachmann on Gingrich: “...he’s been on the take for over a hundred million dollars to influence peddle...”

Well, that does it for me. “Influence peddle” was nasty enough, but “on the take” basically calls him a crook.

She’s off my list. That’s the “respect list” since I wasn’t planning to vote for her, but up to now had some respect for her. Fighting dirty, throwing mud, lying — the fouls just keep on coming from Bachmann.


79 posted on 12/06/2011 1:14:53 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: parksstp

Ditto


80 posted on 12/06/2011 1:15:16 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( PRAY FOR AMERICA)
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