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DNS provision pulled from SOPA, victory for opponents
CNET News ^ | January 13, 2012 1:27 PM PST | DNS provision pulled from SOPA, victory for opponents

Posted on 01/13/2012 3:55:36 PM PST by Smogger

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To: Smogger
The entire SOPA proposal is flawed. Well-intentioned, but drafted by the totally ignorant about the subject -- legislators and bureaucrats.
The cure is "special-interest" crap and the cure is worse than the disease.

Best recent discussion on the subject, for the informed intelligent citizen who has a smidgen of technical knowlege :

What is SOPA?

21 posted on 01/13/2012 7:20:26 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961
“Remember that every government service, every offer of government - financed security, is paid for in the loss of personal freedom... In the days to come, whenever a voice is raised telling you to let the government do it, analyze very carefully to see whether the suggested service is worth the personal freedom which you must forgo in return for such service. ”

― Ronald Reagan

22 posted on 01/13/2012 7:36:42 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Smogger

NOT enough. KILL SOPA and start over, as Darrell Issa has said. I don’t trust Lamar Smith. He yanked Steve King’s seniority and made immigration softie Elton Galleghy the immigration sub chairman. then wrecked the E-Verify bill by adding provisions to kill AZ, AL and GA’s immigration laws. Now this crap. Lamar needs to go, as does the despicable loser Boehner.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 8:02:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: af_vet_rr
I know some fellow Texans who are working to boot Lamar Smith out over this, including some Tea Partiers. Going to have to ask them about this. They have quite a bit of money between them as well.

I run immigration Facebook and Twitter sites with 750,000 members, and want Lamar gone too. Please PM me about how to coordinate with your folks.

24 posted on 01/13/2012 8:07:08 PM PST by montag813
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To: vikingd00d
Why? Is there something wrong with the hosts file?

Yes, and I'd bet someone would come up with other work arounds to domain name servers.

25 posted on 01/13/2012 9:22:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: af_vet_rr

Putting him in charge of the Judiciary Committee was the worst decision House Republicans made after winning the last election.


26 posted on 01/14/2012 2:35:00 AM PST by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: Smogger

LAMAR SMITH IS A WHORE.
CNET News stringer is a whore’s whore for writing the headline as seen above.

This is NOT a victory.

FreeRepublic ceases to exist if SOPA is passed into law.

EVERY website that freeper news junkies patronize will cease to exist if SOPA is passed into law due to SOPA’s fascist provisions.

And now back to your regularly scheduled Saturday programming.


27 posted on 01/14/2012 3:36:58 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: af_vet_rr

Please PM me with contact info for that group organizing against Lamar Smith. I’d like to help out.


28 posted on 01/14/2012 9:01:01 AM PST by peyton randolph (B. Hussein Obama solved Bush's "problem" of a AAA credit rating)
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To: Publius6961

Good to see craigslist has information on their home page, including this link.


29 posted on 01/14/2012 10:20:32 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: JerseyHighlander

I swear this is one of the first times that every conservative and liberal I have met agrees on a subject.

You can tell which people in Congress are paid by the RIAA by who is voting to support and who is voting against.


30 posted on 01/14/2012 12:02:41 PM PST by Homegrown1
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To: upchuck

SOPA’s problem isn’t DNS. SOPA’s problem is SOPA.


31 posted on 01/14/2012 2:10:46 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Agreed. This POS bill must die.


32 posted on 01/14/2012 2:14:23 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: dayglored

.\etc\hosts


33 posted on 01/14/2012 3:03:07 PM PST by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: j_tull; Born to Conserve; vikingd00d
> .\etc\hosts

> Why? Is there something wrong with the hosts file?

Nothing wrong with using /etc/hosts (ahem, "C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts).

Yes, of course one can put every IP-domain map entry in a hosts file. After all that's what people did, prior to DNS. Before 1983. But I daresay there are more IP addresses in use now than there were 30 years ago. A modern useful /etc/hosts file would have to be a mile long, and in most operating systems (notably Windows) that's unwieldy, unstable, and impractically slow.

Problem is, if a domain's DNS is shut off, where's the record of what it WAS? In a matter of minutes, the updated info propagates out into the routers that run the net, and it's gone, dude.

You can probably arrange to have a local DNS lookup or proxy that you pass all your requests through, and which maintains the IP-name associations even if they disappear from the net at large, but how many people can set that up and use it? On a laptop, tablet, or phone?

34 posted on 01/14/2012 6:47:29 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
> OOPS "...propagates out into the routers that run the net..."

sed 's/routers/nameservers/'

35 posted on 01/14/2012 6:50:21 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: rarestia

Wasn’t there consultation with industry groups BEFORE this bill was drawn up? Why only now would provisions be pulled? Who on earth dreams up all these bills in the first place? Look at Obamacare. It is a fight to the death for us freedom lovers on all fronts. Just read here in Missouri the DNR is wanting to expand jurisdiction on streams by 4X. They only want us to give up.


36 posted on 01/14/2012 8:09:20 PM PST by taterjay
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To: muawiyah

I agree, and Smith is my rep. He doesn’t own that seat.


37 posted on 01/14/2012 8:46:50 PM PST by comps4spice (Liberalism is a threat to life and liberty in the USA.)
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To: Smogger; Jim Robinson

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/us/white-house-says-it-opposes-parts-of-2-antipiracy-bills.html?_r=1&hp

White House Says It Opposes Parts of Two Antipiracy Bills
By EDWARD WYATT
Published: January 14, 2012

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration said Saturday that it strongly opposed central elements of two Congressional efforts to enforce copyrights on the Internet, all but killing the current versions of legislation that has divided both political parties and pitted Hollywood against Silicon Valley.

snip


38 posted on 01/15/2012 2:08:51 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: taterjay

What kills me is that the idea of Republicanism is dead. Benjamin Franklin, when asked by a woman what type of government was bestowed upon the people, replied, “A republic, if you can keep it!”

Well, Ben, we’ve failed to keep it. We are supposed to be making the decisions about how this country is steered by electing representatives who represent our interests.

Do some research on “Article the First.” This was the very first amendment to the BoR proposed but not ratified, and it had to do with apportionment of representatives based on population. In the 1930s, the number of Representatives was frozen at 435, but prior to that, it was less and grew every 10 years according to the census. Had it been left to grow, we could conceivably have over 5,000 Representatives in the House, certainly more representative of constituencies than the arbitrary garbage we’re left with now.

Also, repeal the 17th amendment. Popular elections were not the intended way to elect senators.


39 posted on 01/15/2012 7:05:08 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: af_vet_rr
I know some fellow Texans who are working to boot Lamar Smith out over this, including some Tea Partiers.

I would like to vote him out as well. I would join in a serious effort to retire him.

40 posted on 01/15/2012 7:55:50 AM PST by rustbucket
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