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Antonin Scalia's ObamaCare Problem
Reason ^ | March 1, 2012 | Damon W. Root

Posted on 03/02/2012 3:26:26 PM PST by neverdem

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To: FerociousRabbit

The Supreme Court will not be deciding whether or not Obamacare is Constitutional. They will be deciding whether or not the U.S. Constitution is still in effect or if it is simply a relic of our past.

Either the US Constitution is still in effect or the Federal Government is just a bunch of thugs with guns. The Fed’s legitimacy rests solely on the constitution.


21 posted on 03/02/2012 5:48:41 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: neverdem
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If he accepts the government’s argument that Raich is broad enough to allow Congress to force every American to buy health insurance from a private company, the individual mandate will almost certainly survive.

That makes my blood boil.

22 posted on 03/02/2012 6:19:03 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: neverdem

lol.

Liberatarians are crazy


23 posted on 03/02/2012 8:05:57 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: neverdem; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

24 posted on 03/02/2012 11:41:33 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: The Working Man
At what point do taxes and fees and such make us Debt-slaves to the Government?

At least one historian thinks that that is what made the freehold farmers of the Later Roman Empire into the serfs of the Dark Ages. Mind, they were not slaves, and slavery persisted from antiquity into the modern era. But serfdom was the "arrangement" by which ancient senatorial grandees -- who by then were also distinguished in degrees of nobility by such titles as "illustris" and "clarissimus", and also by the imperial title of "comes", or "(imperial) companion", our "count" -- agreed to protect the freeholders from the grasping and desperately needy imperial tax machinery by extending their patronage over them, in return for which the freeholders effectively became bondmen in the name of "amicitia", "friendship": as in, "Don Corleone, be my friend."

25 posted on 03/03/2012 3:49:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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Thank you for the explanation. If I remember correctly weren’t Serf’s considered to be less than a Slave? They were LITERALLY a part of the land they worked, Chattel or Cattle as some would say.

Slaves had to be fed, clothed and housed as they were considered an investment. They could be bought and sold and as they multiplied, their issue could be also. But a serf could not be sold unless the land was sold too. They had to provide their own food, clothing and shelter.

Unfortunately I can see this coming about again, oh sure it won’t be called serfdom and feudalism but the effects will be the same.


26 posted on 03/03/2012 8:41:17 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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