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Senator calls on governor to name special prosecutor in shooting death of black teen
palmbeachpost.com ^ | March 21, 2012 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/22/2012 7:30:46 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Old Sarge
George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old white Hispanic Well, which IS he? Is he white or Hispanic? Because the Thought Police say there's a difference, you can't be both. Either sloppy reporting, or a deliberate attempt to make this a racial-hate crime. Because AS WE ALL KNOW, only whites are racists.

Basically they are reporting the shading of his skin. . If Zimmerman's altercation had been with anyone else but a black person, would the media have played this ridiculous detail up?

61 posted on 03/22/2012 10:52:47 AM PDT by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: MrB
If I carried everything with me to adequately respond to every conceivable occasion, I'd look like I had raided Batman's utility belt.

When a 6' 3" football player is trying to beat in your skull, this will narrow your response options somewhat...

62 posted on 03/22/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Old Sarge

Well, white isn’t a race, nor is Hispanic, something people don’t mention. People are broken down by skin color and other body charactertistics for simplicity.

There are black Cubans, for example, some with fine hair, some with coarse hair.

There are also white Eastern Europeans.
The designation of Hispanic shouldn’t matter, because there really are white Hispanics, especially in Argentina, or white Latins I should say, with predominantly Spanish blood.


63 posted on 03/22/2012 11:13:34 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: MrB
"... Another lesson - carry something less than lethal, like pepperspray or a tazer, so that it’s not “all or nothing” in defending yourself."

Mind your own business.

64 posted on 03/22/2012 11:51:36 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Oh, I’m SO sorry my post on this message board infringed on you in some way...

btw...

“your momma”


65 posted on 03/22/2012 12:00:08 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: EEGator

They are called hispanic when in fact they are native american indians.


66 posted on 03/22/2012 12:48:22 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

Not always true. Many have mostly Spaniard blood. Vicente Fox looks white and is 6’3”. Not too many pale skinned 6’3” Mestizos.


67 posted on 03/22/2012 12:59:44 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Secret Agent Man

Hispanic isn’t a race.


68 posted on 03/22/2012 1:01:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Puppage; MrB
Ridiculous

Not in this specific case, IMO.

Zimmerman claims to be on Neighborhood Watch and as such had no authority to inject himself into a confrontation under color of authority after being told by the Police Dispatcher to back off as the Police were enroute.

Pretty sure that anyone who had some guy accosting them on the street would also try to make them back off. Zimmerman - from what I've seen reported - put himself in the position of inflicting negligent homicide to save himself from a self-created attack. Put him in front of a jury.

69 posted on 03/22/2012 2:05:33 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

As the CCHL instructor kept re-iterating - “you’re not a cop”.


70 posted on 03/22/2012 2:11:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: brityank

agreed.

the classes I am aware of cover what to do with a larger attacker.

We are glossing over the actual evidence we do have so far.

zimmerman was on the ground and was being attacked.

zimmerman was calling for help. (no help was forthcomming, note 911 caller who told her husband to stay inside==all on tape)

The police found stains and blook consistant with this.

So that leaves us with this question, if a neighborhood watch person is following you and has called the police, what happens next? SOMETHING happened to have Troyver(sp?) on top of zimmerman.


71 posted on 03/22/2012 2:23:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MrB

Nonsense.

The last thing anyone needs in a life and death situation is one more decision to make. Carry lethal force but only reach for it when you are in imminent danger.


72 posted on 03/22/2012 3:05:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: MrB

Nonsense.

The last thing anyone needs in a life and death situation is one more decision to make. Carry lethal force but only reach for it when you are in imminent danger.


73 posted on 03/22/2012 3:05:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: CSM

What exactly is a white hispanic?
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No such thing but in lib talk a ‘white hispanic’ is a hispanic who is in trouble or being charged and a ‘black hispanic’ is a victim while a Hispanic is just a ‘regular guy/gal’.

Think Bill Richardson D-NM
He has white name, would ‘pass’ for white, BUT for political purposes he takes on the Hispanic side and social purposes his white side - whatever is best for the occasion.

Like it has been said before - Just because I don’t ‘like’ Obama doesn’t mean I am racist. I am fine with his ‘black’ side, I just can’t stand the “white” BO.


74 posted on 03/22/2012 3:58:04 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Let's start from scratch by voting ALL incumbents out.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

But, no special prosecutor to investigate the racially motivated immolation of the 13 year old White boy in Kansas City.


75 posted on 03/22/2012 5:05:47 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There are three facts related to this case which aren't being publicized:

  1. Martin was a big husky 17 year old who played football. Why is the only picture being shown on the news of him about 5 years old and show him as an early teen or preteen?
  2. Everyone is seemingly willing to climb on the "lets lynch Zimmerman" bandwagon except the City Manager, a black gentlemen himself, and the police department most familiar with the case.
  3. There was an altercation between Zimmerman and Martin before the fatal shot was fired. Indeed, the altercation proceeded the fatal shot. The altercation was exactly why the police bought the self-defense claim from Zimmerman and didn't arrest him on the spot. Yet, of all the ink spilled on this case, there is next to nothing about the details of the altercation.

This is speculation on my part, but based on the facts above being ignored by the media frenzy, this is what I think happened:

Zimmerman was belligerent, possibly even drunk and certainly didn't talk to Martin as respectfully as the TSA talks to Muslims. He may have even said something racial like what is a guy like Martin doing walking in their gated community.

Martin was possibly even drunk as well, but not with alcohol. I'd say he was drunk with pride. Pride which wouldn't allow a racial inferior, particularly a pudgy white guy to disrespect him. He felt he had not only a right, but a duty to teach this cracker a lesson particularly when Zimmerman followed him and pushed the envelope.

What he didn't know, however, was that Zimmerman was carrying an equalizer and was unwilling to submit the beating which he so richly deserved for his disrespect. That's when the real trouble started.

My mama, like so many others, taught me that "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you." The gangsta culture, OTOH, teaches that a beating is a perfectly proper response to being disrespected or insulted and said beating may escalate to even lethal force if the insult or disrespect is sufficiently offensive.

76 posted on 03/23/2012 8:51:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CSM
What exactly is a white hispanic?

Someone lower on the racial totem pole than a regular hispanic, but possibly above a "white female" or an "Asian."

77 posted on 03/23/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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