Posted on 11/17/2012 6:37:21 AM PST by daniel1212
The ACLU says voting in Michigan is too hard.
ACLU: Long lines at Grand Rapids polls mean people must choose between voting or their paychecks
http://www.mlive.com/opinion/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/11/aclu_long_lines_at_polls_mean.html
BTW, I’m not trying to be combative brother. I re-read my posts and my passion on this subject shows through.
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I know for sure that there were churches in Ohio that talked about voting for Obama and had voting pamphlets in their hallway telling people how to vote.
They aren’t going to do this. There are hundreds more black/liberal churches pushing a “candidate.” Evangelicals are afraid of getting in trouble.
Billy Graham urging voters to vote along the lines of their biblical principles is speech. And, it clearly is not an endorsement.
And, if really doesn’t matter. The only thing the IRS can do is tell people their giving to Church of the XYZ isn’t a legitimate deduction from their taxes. So, for those whose deductions make it better for them to itemize, this deduction will then make about a 10-15% difference of the amount donated in their taxable income. So, basically, a guy who gave is at 72300 income and gave 2000 to his church might have his taxable income reduced by 300 bucks down to 72000 before the tax is assessed.
Big Whoop!
Go ahead and speak for that paltry bit of cash.
none of that means the Commissioner of Revenue shouldn’t be flensed, but he probably ought to go to Congress and ask for permanent exclusion of IRS from church affairs, even if they are UBIT related.
The Levites didn’t pay tithe because they maintained the temple. They were not allowed to own or farm land or raise livestock as the other tribes could. They lived off of the remains of the sacrifice or they had to purchase supplies.
Where in the constitution does it say ANYONE is taxed.
The Godless atheist supremacists in Obama’s corner are mad. Their guy won and they are still angry.
Bet there number was among the ranks of Democrats who kept saying “NO (HELL) NO!” at the 2012 DNC convention when the party bosses tried to hastily put in support for God and Israel in the party platform.
These issues require a deeper consideration that you express by your protests.
The Constitution does not say that churches and non profits are tax exempt, nor that they must be taxed, but allows the gov. freedom to do either (and even give money to them), and the contention is not that churches must be tax exempt, but that they must waive the normal 1st Amendment freedom if they choose to be approved as tax exempt.
As for what what Bible verse explains this exemption, that has been answered. Those who dedicate themselves to the Lord’s service without pay were absolved from paying support for the service they were already laboring in. (Dt. 26:11,12)
And even in pagan Egypt, the priests were not required to pay the tax levied on the rest (Genesis 47:26)
Yet while supported in principle, it is not mandated in Scripture, and the Lord paid taxes even though it was unjust. (Mt. 17:24-27)
But like as seen in Scripture, the gov. can choose to recognize non profits as paying their “taxes” to society by voluntary service, and absolved them from taxes so that they may increase their mission. And as such, or at least churches, usually more efficient than the government, and whose work they alleviate, then taxpayers should favor this, and churches can indirectly work to provide a more stable society by bringing souls to be controlled from within, so they need nor be controlled from without.
Moreover, churches are made up of tax payers.
In addition, while a church is essentially “not about buildings and wealth,” the fact is that practically such things, from food to clothes to buildings and the money that buys them, are used in its work and expression of love.
Thus, as we seek to be good stewards of the manifold grace of God, so we should be intent on seeing our funds be to put to the best use, and if freedom from taxes is offered, so it can be accepted.
And while many non profits (not just churches) abuse their status, that does not negate the authenticity of the rest, but can show a need for reform such as to what a non profit is .
Whether non profits can be prohibited from political involvement is the real issue, as is the sometimes one sided application of that rule.
Either way, we all KNOW black and “hispanic” churches won’t be targeted in this lawsuit.
If you read the 16th amendment it authorizes the income tax. The federal government is not allowed to tax direct asset like property. Only States are allowed property taxes.
If you read the 16th amendment it authorizes the income tax. The federal government is not allowed to tax direct asset like property. Only States are allowed property taxes.
If you read the 16th amendment it authorizes the income tax. The federal government is not allowed to tax direct asset like property. Only States are allowed property taxes.
Thanx did not know that
Sorry for the triple post. Not taxing churches has more to do with tradition than law. Man makes the law, makes the money, and collects taxes. These are the ways of the world and shouldn’t concern us. If Washington’s face is on the dollar then we should give it to Washington.
I am a member of the American Legion. A non-profit organization that doesn’t have a paid member in the entire organization, yet we are taxed on property along with any income we receive for the rental of the hall. All of our members pay taxes. We operate on a shoestring budget yet we are able to serve our community.
I see 100 million dollar churches being built in my area not blocks from 100 million dollar churches. Pastors driving new Cadillacs.
The church is its members, not how much money they make or spend.
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree.
No problem. Actually congress can get around the direct tax by labeling your property as income.
The time for listening to these shlubs is over. It’s time to tell them to just go find a hole and climb into it.
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