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‘Fiscal Cliff’ Could Put Millions of Taxpayers Into ‘AMT Shock’ [$33,750 - $45,000 /yr]
CNBC ^ | Published: Thursday, 29 Nov 2012 | 11:24 AM ET | By: Mark Koba

Posted on 11/29/2012 11:31:01 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well aware of the “fine”....but, you can plan so that you avoid it...you just have to have a good financial person thinking about it (which my husband is)


21 posted on 11/29/2012 12:37:46 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Should have added....planning by paying QUARTERLY Estimated taxes...


22 posted on 11/29/2012 12:41:27 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Red Badger

Good!!!! I got hit with the AMT once, it was very, very painful. I want the pain to be felt FAR and WIDE.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 12:41:27 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Red Badger

If only people making $33K a year WOULD pay some taxes.

Right now I think they are on the bubble for getting EITC.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: annieokie
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

-- H. L. Mencken

25 posted on 11/29/2012 12:43:29 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: apillar

It takes me about four hours to complete the stupid form. Not an easy task, especially after a few glasses of wine. I have screwed it up three times in the last few years and usually to my advantage, so they send me a larger refund.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 12:46:42 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: goodnesswins

Wish everyone had to pay their taxes quarterly. You would see a LOT of people crawling all over their congressmen to get the code changed and rates lowered.


27 posted on 11/29/2012 12:51:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Red Badger
With apologies to John Ratzenberger...


28 posted on 11/29/2012 12:57:58 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: pgyanke

in other words: Keep em occupied.......over there.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 1:03:36 PM PST by annieokie
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To: rarestia

Don’t be such a passive quitter!

Cant you get your IRA into something you can self-manage?

having some of your IRA in physical gold or silver will ensure you do not lose every paper dollar of it

after you stop funding your IRA think hard about some tangible investment you can buy and hold for the long term!
Even a doublewide parked on some arable land with underground water, owned free and clear


30 posted on 11/29/2012 1:17:56 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: GeronL

They will.

To many people on SS and other forms of governmental assistance. The pile of money is to large.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 1:22:21 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My plan:

move tax day to Oct 31st and eliminate withholding.

Make everyone write one big check right before election day.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 1:24:59 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mouton

Let it go into affect. REV II comes earlier than expected.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Agreed. Its time to make POSHITUS pay.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 1:29:52 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: MrB

I have long advocated exactly that.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
Go here for more info from "Investment News" posted Monday...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2963306/posts

As usual FR is ahead of the curve....

35 posted on 11/29/2012 2:05:33 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: taildragger; All
BTW....

I posted weeks ago what are your CPA's and Enrolled Agents doing? Are they Freaking? Mine are, they have been warning of all this for weeks.

Tomorrow I go see the a CPA friend who has taken a tax planning program and taken out the "Patch" to see if we are in AMT land this year if this all falls apart, I'll keep you posted....

This is all serious as a Heart Attack folks, I need to start another thread about CPA's etc and what they are experiencing and what they are recommending their clients to at least consider....

36 posted on 11/29/2012 2:09:40 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Red Badger
The funny and annoying thing about the AMT is that it is an alternate flat tax system. I guess the flat part is funny since an out front flat tax is controversial; the annoying part is that you have to go through the tax calculation twice, picking whichever is worse. What's more, insofar as there are tax incentives in the code to act/spend/invest one way or another, they are unclear--you don't know whether or not to act upon them, or whether they'll make no difference until you calcuate your tax both ways at the end of the year.

You don't have to be wealthy to be annoyed with this. Just be middle class and use TurboTax (or its equivalent) and you'll know what I mean.

37 posted on 11/29/2012 2:12:01 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

It seems totally ‘unfair’, in that if you calculate your taxes, using the government’s own laws and pay too little, then they say you have to pay more simply because you are obeying the laws.....They should just come out and say, “If you make this much, then you pay this much.” and be done with it, don’t beat around the ‘Bush”..............


38 posted on 11/29/2012 2:25:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: silverleaf

Unfortunately I’m a bit of a pessimist. I’m 32 and don’t believe I’ll live to see retirement. When the gun grabbers start going door-to-door, I’m of the ilk who will fire back and likely die in the fusillade. If that doesn’t happen, I don’t believe this nation will resemble anything we currently know as I get older. If I make it to retirement age and the world hasn’t completely shit the bed, I’ll either have nothing left in my accounts or will be so beat down that I don’t care.

I was preparing for pastoral formation at one point in my life and was contented with the idea of living a life of poverty, sacrifice, and worship. Now that I’m a successful engineer making a modest living, I have no debt and do not covet material possessions. If I lost everything tomorrow, I would not weep for my loss but be thankful for my life. Material possessions can be replaced.

As life becomes more difficult in this country, I’ll be spiritually prepared to fight for my liberty, and at this point, retirement is far off and something I pray to achieve but under which don’t plan to live a life of excess.


39 posted on 11/29/2012 4:38:51 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Red Badger
I wish I qualified for the AMT -- it would lower my taxes.

But yes, Washington creates tax laws then gets upset when people follow them and the rich don't pay enough. So they create a second tax system which doesn't solve the problem. And they're still upset when rich people still don't pay enough taxes. So they create a third tax system...

40 posted on 11/29/2012 6:34:56 PM PST by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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