Posted on 03/24/2013 7:56:10 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
Thanks for the links gleeaikin. I love the English language. It's not really confirmed, therefore it has not been conceived as to have occurred. There are reports of a miscarriage, and the entire charade has been unexpected with everything which may have happened being unverified. LOL ... it reads like a lame-stream drive by report. Had to have a little fun this AM, gleeaikin. No offense.
Your thought is accurate and true for this entire region.
Turkey is in NATO because NATO is a Turkey.
Agree with your analysis totally except for Obama being three under par, are you saying he’s at the miniature golf?
I would believe only three wrong picks so far. (Libya, Syria, Trust Medvedev).
Turkey, after Ataturk’s reforms, was ready to leave the muslim world behind, or so the thinking went, and join the Western nations. That didn't work out so well either.
As for surveillance of Russian ELINT, Turkey was much like Pakistan, but easier to access, it was also the only place which could get good tropospheric internal communications (phone calls and Molnya data), data dumps from Soviet mil and deep space satellites, direct access to cosmonaut comms, and also (until they went over to all landline) the only place to intercept the Soviet launch telemetry from Baikonur.
The U2 intel was great, but the ELINT was priceless
But, more often than not, the Turkish military hindered collection whenever they saw an opportunity.
Today Turkey, with its move to hardline Islam, is becoming more chaotic and dysfunctional internally, thus fast approaching irrelevance as a NATO member.
Basher Assad should have asked Putin for some Spetsnaz guys for bodyguards. Tough hombres.
Thanks txhurl and gleeaikin for the pings here.
Additional:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3000699/posts
pervasive interment of hardline islamic dictators opens the door to SUPERMAN. no. wait. take the chains off, open the gate to an ignorant rabid pack will bring on. no. wait. who funded the theory man didn’t land on the moon. no. wait. obama stands with israel...
hahaha
There is and has been a sytemic program of removing “despotic” rulers in islamic countries.
hahaha
WARE.
It’s just a coinky-dinky that Zero and Pruneface were right nextdoor when it all went down.
I was in the middle east in the 1956-58 period, and nothing much seems to have changed. In the fall of 1957 there was a border dispute between Syria and Turkey that led to a near war. The Soviets announced their support for Syria, and , of course, we responded by sending a team up from Wheelus AFB in Libya to estabish a radar operation at Incerlic, 56 miles from the border. I was a part of that team. A standoff ensued, thankfully, and within a couple of months it was over. Just recently there was a border dispute between Syria and Turkey, and still the Jews and Arabs still hate each other, there are coups and plenty of brutal killings, and that ever burning sand. It is never changing, or so it seems to me.
Walking around the countryside and town, it became apparent that most of the local customs were still rooted in the 14th Century. I have heard from another FRer that things have greatly changed since then, but I think the reference was directed at the cities. In any case, with the recent turn away from Ataturk and toward the Islamists, the old ways are likely back in full force - at least in the countryside.
As long as the ME & North Africa remain Islamic, things not only will not change, they cannot.
Amen fred. WARE
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