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A New Reason Why Red Meat, and Some Energy Drinks, May Be Bad for Our Heart
ScienceNOW ^ | 7 April 2013 | Jennifer Couzin-Frankel

Posted on 04/09/2013 2:35:06 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

what happens if u don’t have a gut due to UC an auto immune disorder


41 posted on 04/09/2013 5:26:30 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: neverdem
NEVER listen to any study where mice were the subjects. Show me some proof in humans and I'll listen.
42 posted on 04/09/2013 5:29:09 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: HangnJudge

i believe that there are supplements that contain L-carnitine to enhance certain masculine functioning.


43 posted on 04/09/2013 5:37:58 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Can you show me the research that says eggs are not bad for your cholesterol, please?”

Cholesterol is not a disease. Statin drugs are deadly. A cholesterol level of 250 to 300 is much more healthy than a cholesterol level of 150 to 200. Without cholesterol we die. Our brain cells are mostly cholesterol, and all cell walls require cholesterol. Also, there is no such thing as ‘good’ or ‘bad’ cholesterol. Cholesterol is produced in our livers, and our cholesterol levels are related to liver production of cholesterol rather than to the food we eat.

Burn patients are ‘treated’ with a high egg diet...up to 16 eggs a day. They have done studies where they measured cholesterol in patients at the beginning of this high egg diet, and at the end of it after weeks of eggs, eggs, eggs. The cholesterol levels in these burn patients went DOWN!

I eat lots of eggs...maybe a couple dozen a week. My cholesterol was just checked at 204, and HDL was 55. My doctor is not concerned.

http://www.thepeopleschemist.com/cholesterol.pdf


44 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:13 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: ncpatriot
what happens if u don’t have a gut due to UC an auto immune disorder

I guess you have to get by with total parenteral nutrition.

45 posted on 04/09/2013 5:55:25 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: 1010RD

“It’s dead, Cid.”

Doesn’t scream, doesn’t moo,
All you say is very true.

;^)


46 posted on 04/09/2013 5:58:39 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: gura
NEVER listen to any study where mice were the subjects. Show me some proof in humans and I'll listen.

Click on the third link in comment# 18. Scroll down to "Confirmation of elevated plasma levels of the dietary PC metabolites TMAO, choline and betaine as predictors of cardiovascular risk in a large independent clinical cohort," and Table 3. TMAO has a strong correlation with coronary artery disease in people.

Are you any relation to Alan Gura of D.C. v. Heller fame?

47 posted on 04/09/2013 6:09:50 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: WVKayaker

Thank you so much for the info... and the pics. I have seen those before.


48 posted on 04/09/2013 6:32:49 PM PDT by diamond6 (God is good.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I have eaten three over easy eggs cooked in coconut oil every morning for 20 years and my cholesterol numbers are all in the lower half of the chart. Matter of fact all my numbers are lower than average. 5’11” / 165 lbs/ bp 110/ 70


49 posted on 04/09/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Bingo! We have a winner!

Eat grass fed and non GMO organic food. It’s not rocket science. High Fructose Corn Syrup is no substitute for cane sugar, Soy and soybean related products are 95% GMO as is Cotton FGS!

We are being poisoned by progress...gee...I wonder if that’s intentional?


50 posted on 04/09/2013 7:12:07 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: editor-surveyor

Coconut oil is your very best friend, although I loves me some organic butter and Extra Virgin Organic Olive Oil!


51 posted on 04/09/2013 7:18:36 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: NoGrayZone

The point was your statement implied you wanted all beef production to go that way. Impossible. I personally do not care about hormones or antibiotics. The only negative in the cow raising is the grain feeding...but it is impossible to raise enough cattle for demand and feed them grass so you take the good with the bad. And last I looked you no longer can feed cattle any part of the cow.


52 posted on 04/09/2013 8:06:17 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: goodwithagun

That is all well and good on a small scale. But large scale not practical at all. You gotta figure it takes 1.5 acres per cow in very good land to raise one. Multiply that by the tens of millions we eat per year. In mostly arid, dry lands that can’t replace its grass as fast as say the south east.


53 posted on 04/09/2013 8:10:32 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: diamond6
Vacu Vin 3-Piece Wine Saver Pump and Stopper.
54 posted on 04/09/2013 8:52:57 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: neverdem

“The human intestinal microbial community...”

Mine has been protesting lately. They are demanding more coffee and chocolate. Guess I will have to give in to keep them quiet.


55 posted on 04/09/2013 9:25:09 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: neverdem

Well, I always try to have bacon with my beef. I think the combo confuses my gut bacteria and they don’t know which to convert to which substance. My great uncle, who lived to 102, drank a half pint of bourbon, smoked a pack a day, ate red meat at least once a day, simply got tired of living. He came home from a funeral, and went to bed, and refused to get out of his bed for several weeks, and devolped fatal pneumonia. His complaint was that he was tired of making new friends and then having to watch them die, and making new friends, etc. He also said he felt quite lonely, as all of his direct family (siblings, cousins, etc) had all died and he felt alone.
After hearing his tirade, I vowed to enjoy my life, and all the vices I could, I mean nobody is making it out of here alive, so what’s ten years either way, as long as I can eat meat and bacon. They were also favorites of my great uncle.


56 posted on 04/09/2013 11:40:44 PM PDT by krogers58 ())
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To: Uncle Miltie

I agree...I also eat a lot of eggs...when they said eggs were bad for me, I was 37 (that was back in the mid-70’s). They reversed that about 10 years later. Thank goodness!


57 posted on 04/10/2013 7:03:21 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: neverdem

so get rid of red meat, and watch the girls all get anemic from lack of iron. no problem.

Junk science of course...

High fat meat probably is associated with heart disease, but what they don’t tell you is that other populations have other problems. All those “long lived Europeans” are the survivors of TB and famine during world war I and II...the Japanese don’t get as much heart disease, but die of high blood pressure. And of course, a low protein/low calorie diet might stop heart disease but you die of other problems because your immune system gets sluggish...


58 posted on 04/10/2013 6:54:50 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: NoGrayZone

I agree with you. While they are at it, maybe they can stop genetically modifying fruits n veggies. Nasty stuff. I think this whole “science” condemming red meat is as real as global warming.


59 posted on 04/11/2013 3:00:11 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: WVKayaker

Does the wine have to be refrigerated?


60 posted on 04/14/2013 4:07:02 PM PDT by diamond6 (God is good.)
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