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Army Removes Bible Reference from Scopes
Fox News Radio ^ | 4/22/2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/22/2013 6:48:44 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Age of Reason
Seems hypocritical for a weapon used for killing to be associated with that verse

Mmmmm ... I think the device is meant to assist a weapon used in administering justice, eh?

"... But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid: for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom. 13:4b AV)

41 posted on 04/22/2013 7:56:28 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He has done for my soul. Ps 66:16)
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To: smoothsailing

Interesting and chilling if one has ever read Canticle for Leibowitz.

“Fiat Lux” indeed.


42 posted on 04/22/2013 8:05:20 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: imardmd1

For a sight? A sight isn’t going to kill.


43 posted on 04/22/2013 8:05:52 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: markomalley

I think it’s sneaky of the manufacturer to slip in a Biblical reference on a piece of military equipment it was contracted to produce for the Army. It was being paid by the taxpayers to produce that scope, not to preach.

People in the military, of course, are free to worship, and read whatever verse they please, as much as they wish in whatever free time they have. The United States, though, is not sending out holy warriors committed to any particular religious cause (and if it were, it wouldn’t be up to some manufacturer to choose which one). I have to agree with the government on this one.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 8:07:45 PM PDT by GJones2 (Biblical verse on Army rifle scope)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Ok Here he is.

45 posted on 04/22/2013 8:09:00 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s my two cents: early in 2009 it was announced that military suicides in 2008 exceeded the number of deaths from enemy action. In the Army Reserve we were required to attend a raft of mandatory classes about `suicide prevention’ with intervention scenarios. The role of the chaplain’s office was barely mentioned; the `buddy system’ was enlisted to instruct soldiers to watch for `warning signs’ such as `starts giving away all his valuable personal possessions’.

2011: an article in Army Times describes the suicide epidemic as unabated and in five pages of small print does not ONCE mention G-d, the chaplain, spirituality, the role of religion or anything at all about the transcendent or the immortal. It occurred to me then that the Almighty has indeed been purged from the ranks of the soldiery.

This story about DOD ordering the defacing of the manufacturer’s Scriptural inscription is appalling but now is longer unexplainable.

Lord help us!


46 posted on 04/22/2013 8:12:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

“...the defacing of the manufacturer’s Scriptural inscription is appalling but now is no longer unexplainable.”

It’s getting late. Geez.......


47 posted on 04/22/2013 8:14:00 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: GJones2

I don’t think the manufacturer was being “sneaky”...it sounds like they’ve been making their scopes this way for some time, now.


48 posted on 04/22/2013 8:23:23 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: rdcbn
Wish I could afford a Trijicon for my 308. Didnt know about the Bible verse. Makes it even more desirable.
49 posted on 04/22/2013 8:27:18 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: markomalley

I’d just replace them with Tanach references.


50 posted on 04/22/2013 8:34:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, IÂ’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jane Long

Well, if it’s just part of their general production of scopes, I suppose leaving it there is more understandable. Coding Biblical verses as part of a model number, though, still seems a bit sneaky to me — and futile. There’s hardly an American on earth who isn’t aware of the existence of the Bible, and who hasn’t had plenty of opportunities to read it. Who lets coded inscriptions on a rifle scope determine what they are going to read next? I don’t think it’s effective, and in my opinion it makes Christian evangelism look a bit petty.


51 posted on 04/22/2013 8:57:19 PM PDT by GJones2 (Biblical verse on Army rifle scope)
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To: markomalley

While I most assuredly disagree with the methods employed by the WBC, the message they have regarding the fact that as the U.S. falls further and further away from God, God moves His Grace farther and farther from the U.S. is accurate.


52 posted on 04/22/2013 9:02:33 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: GJones2
Who lets coded inscriptions on a rifle scope determine what they are going to read next? I don’t think it’s effective

exactly, so why is it contorversial at all? Who raises a stink over something so trivial?

53 posted on 04/22/2013 9:16:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SandRat

in due time he will. as much as i wish he’d repent and use his energy for our side, given his age and personality, and the people around him, it’s extremely unlikely.


54 posted on 04/22/2013 9:31:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In God’s own time it will happen.


55 posted on 04/22/2013 10:05:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: markomalley

Part of obama’s “Separation of Church and Weapons” program.


56 posted on 04/23/2013 2:16:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Sorry -- I failed to offset the first sentence in Post 41 as being from FReeper "Age of Reason" Post 32, to which my comment was addressed (in a sort of tongue-in-cheek way).

Of course, you are right. The weapon may be an implement devised to multiply the ease and range over which injury or death is administered, but some person has to decide to employ it. However, you must admit that the telescopic sight greatly extends the range, precision, and discernment of the weapon, and is therefore an integral part of its utility.

The point here is that the purchaser, the government, finds no useful enhancement of marking the sight with extra alphanumeric symbols irrelevant to its function or description.

57 posted on 04/23/2013 2:25:50 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He has done for my soul. Ps 66:16)
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To: markomalley; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ..
With the military more and more mutating into just another PC happy-crap social engineering program, we knew this was coming.

All of my Trijicon optics have these Bible references.

Mine are staying right where they are.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

58 posted on 04/23/2013 4:22:47 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: GeronL

> exactly, so why is it contorversial at all? Who raises a stink over something so trivial?

Answer: Our government!


59 posted on 04/23/2013 7:46:14 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: markomalley

Would Luke 22:36 be a better choice?


60 posted on 04/23/2013 6:54:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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