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REDUCED HAZARD TRAINING AMMUNITION (Big Sis wants more!)
DHS ^
| MAY 02.2013
| DHS
Posted on 05/04/2013 11:34:54 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: shibumi
" Interestingly, that good stuff as you put it cannot be used in a military conflict covered by the Geneva Convention, being that it is *all* hollow point."
Your posts have no validity or value because of the erroneous information presented. The Geneva Conventions deal with the treatment of war prisoners and do not address the subject at hand. It is The Hague Conventions that address acceptable methods and bullet types used when conducting civilized warfare between nations. Those conventions only apply to uniformed enemy soldiers, not against terrorists or during civil wars. In addition, the U.S. did not sign the Hague Conventions, although we generally conform to the Standards.
" US ammo makers have chosen their side."
Which side of what? The U.S. commercial ammunition manufacturers are running at maximum capacity and have never produced more ammunition than recently. The U.S. government buys only a tiny fraction of that production. The majority is being purchased and hoarded by civilian conspiracy freaks who believe the nonsense published on various Internet forums by genuine, low information, kooks.
Please gets your 'facts' straight before posting additional misinformation.
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posted on
05/05/2013 7:13:14 AM PDT
by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: SWAMPSNIPER
This is frangible bulleted ammunition intended to be fired against hardened steel backstops and/or targets at close range during training. It is designed to reduce ricochets and bullet particle spash back that might injure the students or trainers.
Such ammunition is not available at Wal-Mart or most retail outlets.
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posted on
05/05/2013 7:20:16 AM PDT
by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: carriage_hill
...their licenses depended on compliance.
That is total B.S. Who makes up such nonsense?
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posted on
05/05/2013 7:22:50 AM PDT
by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: SWAMPSNIPER; All
To: Buffalo Head
" " US ammo makers have chosen their side."
Which side of what? The U.S. commercial ammunition manufacturers are running at maximum capacity and have never produced more ammunition than recently. The U.S. government buys only a tiny fraction of that production. The majority is being purchased and hoarded by civilian conspiracy freaks who believe the nonsense published on various Internet forums by genuine, low information, kooks.
Please gets your 'facts' straight before posting additional misinformation.
The quote you are "responding" to was not posted by me.
Please get your "facts" straight before unleashing your vitriolic invective.
Also lease note that The Geneva Convention and the two Hague Conferences are often referred to by international law scholars in a collective manner as a single body comprising the laws of warfare.
If my failure to satisfactorily split hairs to your liking disturbs you well ..... sorry.
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:26:50 AM PDT
by
shibumi
(Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
To: shibumi
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_hollow_point_ammunition_banned_by_Geneva_convention#page2 “Hollow point ammunition is not banned by the Geneva Convention. This is often incorrectly believed. The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use in international warfare of bullets which easily expand or flatten in the body. The crucial point is “warfare”. They are legal for hunting and in some situations (inside an aircraft as an example, self defence and law enforcement) where it is preferential to contain the round.”
Some hollow point ammo that the Military uses is not designed for expansion but for stability of flight in long range use.
LLS
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:28:01 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: Gaffer
janet nappytano wouldn't know about Lake City and other plants if they bit her on her fat lesbian butt.
LLS
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:32:49 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: Buffalo Head
That’s what the article said; I didn’t write it. DHS (ATF etc) has got their tentacles into so much these days, it wouldn’t surprise me.
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:51:19 AM PDT
by
Carriage Hill
(AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
To: shibumi
However it and identical LE ammunition can be and is used by local, state, federal law enforcement. If a citizen or alien is fired upon by LE within US borders, the ammunition is always or nearly always Jacketed hollow points.
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:52:10 AM PDT
by
TFMcGuire
(Liberalism Is Hatred)
To: TFMcGuire
Thank you.
That was my point, hollow though it may be.
(Rip! Snort! Guffaw! Chuckle! The Devil made me do it!)
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posted on
05/05/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT
by
shibumi
(Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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