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Time to stop arguing about climate change, World Bank says
Reuters ^ | Jun 19, 2013 | Nina Chestney

Posted on 06/19/2013 6:59:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

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To: expat_panama
A few weeks ago I was reading some leftist pundit who as outraged that we'd accuse "thousands of scientists" of being dishonest cheats.

There are thousands of "scientists" who deny that a fetus is alive to protect the legality of infanticide known as abortion.

I'd believe there are thousands of corrupt scientists. I've heard people try to decide between being a doctor or a lawyer. Both decisions seem to be financially driven, not skills based. And we know that lawyers are dishonest a$$holes.

41 posted on 06/19/2013 8:57:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: melsec

[[Anyone who silences scientific debate is certainly not in it for the science]]

The folsk who are fightign the ‘man-caused global warming’ criminals NEED to make htis hteir mantra- and hammer it home, takign out ads and plasterign hte airwaves with it- State that because the alarmists can’t prove their case, they are declarign hte case over with, and claiming victory because that is the only way they can win their case- by LYING- point out hte lies they’ve made, and state very clearly “That is NOT how science is done- these folsk are beign anti-science by tryign to shut down thsoe hwo have evidence provign that man is NOT causing cliamte change”

There are a few fighting the alarmists- however, the effort isn’t big enough or powerful enough- the ONLY thing these alarmist creeps understand is soemone standign up to them and smackign htem right back- just liek our dear leader- when the right FINALLY sort of stood up to him i nregards to nsa, beghazi, spying etc- he craweld into a protective shell and hid

Peopel keeps saying ‘oh we can’t be mean (whatever that means? Slamming someone who NEEDS to be slammed with hte truth is NOT beign mean- infact it is doing a duty- it is NOT allowign htem to live i ntheir ignorance any logner- you are infact HELPING them by slapping them out of their hysteria and stupified drunkeness- thus makign htem better people) and that we ‘can’t stoop to their level’ and ‘we must take hte high road and be polite’

BS- We are NOT being impolite by presentign htem with hte cold hard facts- we are doign them a disservice when we don’t fight them effectively enough to snap them out of their criminal ways-


42 posted on 06/19/2013 9:00:38 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: cuban leaf

[[They don’t even realize how stupid they sound. In essence, they are saying “if you disagree with us, stop arguing and just do what we say.”]]

That’s EXACTLY what nancy peelosi said when she said about dearl eader’s death panel health care package “you’ll just ghave to pass it in order to see what’s in it- you’re gonna love it- trust me”


43 posted on 06/19/2013 9:02:24 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“dammit, we want our vig on this and we want it now!”


44 posted on 06/19/2013 9:03:08 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nervous Tick

[[Dangerous temperature rises... hmmm. I wonder where they’re writing from; *my* planet isn’t experiencing dangerous temperature rises.]]

Yes, we saw fisrt hand how dangerous the tempurature rises were when the ice age lifted thanks to NATURALLY LOCCURING climate change- as the miles thick glaciers coverign America receecded leavign hte great lakes- lfie ceased to exist- all animals perished- peopel were wiped out all over the planet- the whole globe turned into a dust bowl, water dried yup everywhere- (except i nthe oceans of course, which inexplicably rose 30 feet and flooded everythign, drownign and destroyign everythign in it’;s path out just like al gore predicted)

oh wait- no they weren’t- life survived just fine- not just once, but serveral times as cliamte change has been cosntantly happening sicne the earth’s creation


45 posted on 06/19/2013 9:06:57 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: BitWielder1

[[Even assuming AGW is real, it completely escapes me how redistributing money from rich nations (where better technology is more likely to be invented) to third world nations (where they still burn dung) could in any way alleviate global warming.]

The pwoers that be ‘claim’ that givign poor coutnries money will allow them to build cleaner more ecologically sensitive plants, equipp homes with more efficient cleaner devices etc- however, we know damn well NONE of this iwll make even the slightest bit of difference because man’s total contribution to atmospheric CO2 is a scant 0.004% and that nature naturally takes care of CO2 levels and always has, and always will- the rest of the CO2 i nthe atmosphere, the 99.996% is caused by NATURAL MEANS- which means we are NOT the ones causign hte CO2 riuse i nthe atmosphere-

The fact is that CO2 doesn’t even cause cliamte change- cliamte change causes a rise in CO2- when the globe warms, CO2 rises 100’s of years later as ice melts and oceans warm and the CO2 gets released into atmosphere- when it cools again, the CO2 drops back into ice and oceans- and all this is proven by ice core samples (which incidently REFUTE the alarmist’s claims 100%- ooops excuse me, I meant 99.996%)

Climate change causes a rise in CO2- man and nature spewign out CO2 does NOT cause cliamte change- thsi is backed up by scientific fact- but hte pwoers that be are relyign o ntheir ability to suppress these FACTS and their ability to manipulate the low info voters-

Hell- they aren’t even relyign on that any logner- they simpyl don’t care what the public says- the ‘debate is over’ and they say ‘everyoen can just shut the hell up because we are goign to tax you whether youl ike it or not regardkless of what hte evidence proves’


46 posted on 06/19/2013 9:15:31 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: BitWielder1

[[After all, IF all this cash actually improves the economy of the receiving nations, wouldn’t the world wide energy demand go up?]]

That’s an excellent point- but you can’t talk logic to thieves and crooks- gthey don’t care what the eivdence and posible outcomes will be- they ARE goign to tax us for carbon output- period-


47 posted on 06/19/2013 9:16:52 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Not quite, but a good start.

First off, who says the status quo is the optimum temperature, anyway?

Imagine orange groves in Saskatoon, for instance, unfettered access to the Northwest Passage to reduce shipping travel (and fuel burned), How much lower heating bills would be in say, North Dakota.

The potential is incredible---why Greenland could be GREEN! Imagine an ecowhacko who couldn't support that!

Of course, all the limousine liberals with beachfront property would have to relocate, but that would be a small price to pay for "sustainability"!

(8^D)

48 posted on 06/19/2013 10:27:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Sooo...

Will the World Bank require its grandees to travel in “Coach Class” as they jet around the world?

No?

Then the “crisis” isn’t REAL, is it?


49 posted on 06/19/2013 12:07:19 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1

If global warming is such a threat, they should bicycle.


50 posted on 06/19/2013 12:22:03 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: CottShop

Great rant - agreed. There are so many things going on simultaneously that people seem to be running from one problem to another pointing at it for awhile then onto the next one. You have immigration, IRS scandal, Arab winter (spring), Boston Bombing, Spying scandal, Benghazi, not to mention the ever popular homo agenda, abortion, attacks on the church, gun control, youth culture and probably 20 or 30 other things.

In my mind (for what that’s worth) Climate Change has been used as the underlying driver to a lot of domestic changes that most people don’t even know of yet. Agenda 21 is being or has been put in place in every level of government. I am afraid that they only way to lever it out now may be force.

This leftie generation has found it’s crusade and they seem to be more religious about it than any other because they see within it the opportunity to fundamentally change the world according to their agenda.

Because the Republican leadership is in such disarray there have been few who are leading the way - self interest seems to rule the roost for them and so many of them don’t want to seem to be the bad guy they have wimped out of their principles.

The only ones to be doing anything are people like, Lord Monkton, handful of GOP conservatives and while some may not be perfect they at least deserve our support on this issue.

Mel


51 posted on 06/19/2013 6:08:40 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: melsec

[[The only ones to be doing anything are people like, Lord Monkton,]]

Lord Monkton is a saint- He’s put his life o nthe line tackling the rabid climate alarmists- literally- and still he keeps goign forward-

James Inhoffe and Marc Morano who used to work under him tried for a little while, but soon gave up- sure, they still cite the reams of evidence agaiasnt the false claim that man is causing global wamring, but they are not pushign nearly hard enough, nor organizing a groupd large and effective enough to be of any use- and the left knows this- so they just htrow their lies in our faces now and dare us to try to do somethign about it


52 posted on 06/19/2013 7:58:39 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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