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The GOP Is More Serious Than Sarah Palin (Uses Lincoln & Reagan to bash Palin on Amnesty!)
Commentary Magazine ^ | July 8, 2013 | Peter Wehner

Posted on 07/08/2013 12:16:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: central_va
It is estimated that over 400,000 immigrants served with the Union Army. This included 216,000 Germans and 170,000 Irish soldiers.

Your statistics are very good. Yes, there were many immigrants in the northern army. Of course there were also many in the southern army. But the point is they were not invited or encouraged to come to the United States to fight in a war. The were encouraged to come because of the opportunities that awaited them, primarily land.

It is not well known today that the Revolutionary War was primarily between the Irish and the Scots in this country against the British. While there were many English who fought against England,approximately 30 - 35% were Irish and Scots. And again these immigrants were here for land, not war.

Again I say the current immigrants are here for jobs and benefits, not land. These jobs and benefits are being taken away or at least diminished for the US citizens.

101 posted on 07/08/2013 6:01:27 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Re: “This guy is obsessed with Palin.”

The whole magazine - “Commentary” - is obsessed with any Conservative who does anything that embarrasses the GOP elite or Beltway RINO's.

Eight months after the election “Commentary” is still attacking the two Tea Party Senate candidates who made awkward, unprepared remarks about rape and abortion.

In recent months “Commentary” has published non-stop belligerent mockery of rank and file Conservatives who reject Amnesty.

These guys have done incalculable damage to the Republican Party and the country.

102 posted on 07/08/2013 10:22:57 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: ProudFossil

America’s population is almost exactly 10 times larger in 2013 than it was in 1860, when Lincoln became president.

31.4 million in 1860.

313.9 million in 2013.

Amazingly, the Black population (slave and free) in 1860 and the Black population in 2013 equaled 13% of total population in both of those years.


103 posted on 07/08/2013 10:39:48 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

REagan called amnesty a mistake. Wehner is a cheap trotskyite.


104 posted on 07/09/2013 1:04:16 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For a good perspective on Peter Wehner, read this from Jen Kuznicki:

http://jenkuznicki.com/2013/05/peter-wehner-attacks-phyllis-schlafly/

The piece puts Wehner squarely into the GOPe camp inhabited by Rove and Bush that wants open borders and amnesty.


105 posted on 07/09/2013 1:57:31 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Hey, thanks for reading my comment!

As you see Commentary is completely in the tank for amnesty but most of their readers are not, well I guess I should say most of their commentors.


106 posted on 07/09/2013 2:55:29 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Quite right.

Wehner is flacking for the Donor class who pulled the wool over Reagan’s eyes in 1986. Reagan never got the enforcement he had expected.

Palin understands that this is an immigration bill for the entitled elites who are at war with the Middle Class.

This immigration bill is a bill only Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Barack Obama could love.


107 posted on 07/09/2013 7:18:58 AM PDT by section9
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To: lentulusgracchus
By the wayyyy.... a FReeper named GOPcapitalist ("GOPcap" for short) took an interest in this subject about nine years ago and had a look in the government files. Everything Sickles had sent back (letters, journals, everything) had been removed from State Department files, and GOPcap came to believe the files had been rifled. Touchy subject, perhaps.

Mentions of Sickles 1865 mission to what was then called the United States of Columbia (Columbia and Panama and maybe bits of other present day countries) did survive in the old newspapers. Perhaps one reason Lincoln sent Sicles was that Sickles was a friend of the new president of the United States of Columbia, Manuel Murillo Toro, whom Sickles had met in the United States.

Here is one such newspaper report (Dayton Daily Empire, Dayton [Ohio], June 02, 1865):

The Negroes of the U.S. to be sent to Bogota.

It is understood that the mission of General Sickles to Bogota was for the purpose of obtaining grants of lands for the purpose of settling them with blacks from the United States, and that the late President who authorized the mission, was willing to give fifteen millions of dollars for adequate territory.

108 posted on 07/09/2013 7:52:23 AM PDT by rustbucket
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As for Lincoln, in a new biography on him, Rich Lowry points out that “Lincoln was broadly pro-immigration

"Immigration" is not amnesty

Why can't the illegals use the system set up to come here...because they can't get here fast enough for Dem pols.

109 posted on 07/09/2013 8:02:48 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The Liberian experiment of the 1840's was well advanced when Lincoln came to office.

It actually dates back to 1816 with the founding of The American Colonization Society

110 posted on 07/09/2013 9:13:38 AM PDT by Ditto
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Peter Wehner Is A Very Serious Person

Posted on July 09 2013 - 12:01 AM - Posted by:

It’s been a few weeks since Peter Wehner last wrote a hit piece on Governor Palin, so he was due.  Well, he didn’t disappoint, with his newest screed today.  I always find it comical that people like Wehner who claim to ignore Governor Palin always find the time to write lengthy posts about her.  Peter’s latest piece is entitled The GOP Is More Serious Than Sarah Palin.  You see, if you have been paying attention to Peter Wehner’s writings lately, especially as they relate to Governor Palin, you should know one thing:

Peter Wehner is a very serious man.  Seriously.  He is a very serious thinker.  He seriously contemplates serious ideas, always in a serious manner.  Upon completion of these very serious ideas that he was seriously contemplating, he seriously reflects on the serious contemplation.  He also seriously discusses these serious  ideas with other serious people, who seriously possess loads of serious gravitas.  Wehner and these other serious people seriously discuss these serious issues in serious forums, which take place in serious venues.  Sometimes they will appear on serious TV shows and serious radio shows in order for their serious ideas on serious issues to reach a larger audience of serious people.  Other times Peter and his other serious colleagues will write serious op-eds to be published in serious newspapers, serious magazines, or serious websites.

Now, once Wehner has seriously written a serious op-ed on a serious topic in a serious publication for serious people to seriously reflect on and seriously contemplate, his serious work has only just seriously begun.  He and his serious colleagues must now seriously convene to discuss these serious issues and come up with serious solutions as to how their serious ideas can be understood by us non-serious people.  Or, better yet, come up with serious ways in which non-serious people just sit down and shut up.  Because only serious people like Peter can understand the serious nuances of serious ideas.

So, Wehner and his serious friends get into their serious cars, wearing their serious clothes,  listening to their serious music, and arrive at a serious restaurant.  Once there, they will order some serious appetizers, maybe a serious bottle of wine, and more serious food.  Over the course of the evening, they will seriously discuss the serious issues they seriously wrote about earlier in the day on the serious TV shows they appeared on, the serious op-eds they penned in the serious publications, and other serious ideas on serious issues and serious topics they may have heard about while at some other serious event attended by serious people.   The last order of the serious dinner gathering will be a serious back and forth on the serious topics they will have to seriously tackle the next day in the most serious of ways.

Just before going to sleep, Peter Wehner takes one more serious moment to seriously reflect on the serious contemplation of the serious issues he seriously wrote about in all of the serious forums on this most serious day.  He can now rest easy, in a serious way, of course, that his seriousness is the saving grace for all of us non-serious people.

Was this serious enough for you, Peter?

111 posted on 07/09/2013 11:06:47 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Heh, well done.


112 posted on 07/12/2013 5:39:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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