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NSA loophole allows warrantless search for US citizens' emails and phone calls
UK Guardian ^ | August 9, 2013 | James Ball and Spencer Ackerman

Posted on 08/09/2013 9:48:59 AM PDT by don-o

Edited on 08/09/2013 10:03:10 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: xzins

I thought there was another source which indicated they were using 3 degrees of separation.


21 posted on 08/09/2013 10:10:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: OneWingedShark
It is terrifying what this country is becoming. Equally terrifying that the people are allowing it to happen. We were given a a window of opportunity with our recent second amendment victories. We should not squander that window of opportunity.

“Arm yourself, my heart: the thing that you must do is fearful, yet inevitable.”

Euripides

22 posted on 08/09/2013 10:13:59 AM PDT by RC one
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To: don-o

So then the reality is the law allows for warrant-less searches of US Citizens... chirping from the left...wonder why.


23 posted on 08/09/2013 10:20:36 AM PDT by edcoil ("Thoughts become things - Think good ones")
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To: driftdiver
The source I read had the quote as "three or four" — which is why it was such a big deal because apparently every human being on the planet has at most only 5 degrees to every other.

It is therefore entirely plausible that "everyone in the country" is within 3 or 4 degrees and that such was a very veiled admission to spying on everyone domestically.

24 posted on 08/09/2013 10:22:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: unixfox
I see the problem. I just looked at a scan of the original Bill Of Rights, and it is written in cursive. No wonder Obama and Holder don't understand what it says!

-PJ

25 posted on 08/09/2013 10:23:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: unixfox
unixfox ~:" The 4th Amendment doesn’t provide for loopholes! "

For the 4th Amendment to be functioning in the Republic , you need a system of checks and balances.

The Congress is effite and ineffective , and not holding to their Constitutional oath ,
The Judiciary is slow and deliberate , and almost useless within the existing delays and time constraints
The Executive branch is in Dictatorial like over-reach and micro-management in terms of control
and is backed by an equally over-reaching "Dept. of JUST-US" which is involved in delay , deny , obfiscate , deny , delay, etc..

26 posted on 08/09/2013 10:27:49 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: OneWingedShark

One article I read said it was 4.7 but I think it depends on the study and interpretation.


27 posted on 08/09/2013 10:30:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
One article I read said it was 4.7 but I think it depends on the study and interpretation.

Ceiling of 4.7 would be 5; I'm probably just paraphrasing that study (I skimmed the one linked to that story).

28 posted on 08/09/2013 10:34:00 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: unixfox

Agreed!

Unless the “loophole” is the officially declared state of emergency that the USA has been under since @1935. These are extended at least yearly by executive order, and are published in the federal register.

I have never seen an answer to what the government thinks it can do, because there is a declared state of emergency (that it could not otherwise.)


29 posted on 08/09/2013 10:37:15 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: OneWingedShark

Nevertheless, the NSA is monitoring every American (except those in mosques) and providing the data to other federal agencies to include IRS, DEA, DHS, FBI and probably anyone else who asks for it.


30 posted on 08/09/2013 10:43:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: don-o

I’m sure whatever evidence they turn up with a warrant will be tossed out at the arraignment.


31 posted on 08/09/2013 10:48:25 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: don-o

Ooops! Sorry, Barry.

Eddie can drip faster than you can spin.


32 posted on 08/09/2013 11:03:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: driftdiver
Nevertheless, the NSA is monitoring every American (except those in mosques) and providing the data to other federal agencies to include IRS, DEA, DHS, FBI and probably anyone else who asks for it.

You're probably more right than you'd like to be:

Other Agencies Clamor for Data N.S.A. Compiles
33 posted on 08/09/2013 11:10:17 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: xzins

So please grade me on my scenario, Rev!

Abdul the Terrorist calls the bank to check up on that deposit from the Saudi Wahhabi Oil Sheik Benevolent Fund (The same fund that gives Obama money to oppose the Keystone pipeline and pays John McCain to advocate war with Syria)), and so that bank clerk he talked to is the 1st degree of separation. Later that day a pizza store owner calls into that bank and our newly made person-of-interest clerk answers questions about his checking account, that’s the degree of separation number 2. That evening you call in a take-out pizza. Now you’re the 3rd degree of separation. So it’s ok to spy on you without a warrant, right?

Seriously, they’ve thrown the Constitution we took a mortal oath to right into the garbage.


34 posted on 08/09/2013 11:11:52 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: OneWingedShark

“There. That’s how they’ll justify ‘hops’.”

The fun fact is: Everybody on the planet knows anybody else on the plant with an average of only 6 “hops”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation


35 posted on 08/09/2013 11:12:36 AM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

It’s because the voting public is asleep at the switch and too low information thanks to the democrats and their allies the media. including the entertainment media.


36 posted on 08/09/2013 11:12:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SgtBilko
The fun fact is: Everybody on the planet knows anybody else on the plant with an average of only 6 “hops”.

Recent research has the number at 4.7 :(

37 posted on 08/09/2013 11:18:14 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: edcoil

“Loophole” has 2 definitons:

#1 a lawful activity liberals wish to outlaw.

#2 an illegal activity conducted by liberals under the guise of legality, excused by the deliberate misreading of a vaguely written law.


38 posted on 08/09/2013 11:35:59 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: OneWingedShark

What does a totalitarian like Obama care for the Constitution? It’s not there is anyone with enough guts to try to stop him.


39 posted on 08/09/2013 11:36:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: bamahead

If we wish to be exempt from monitoring why don’t we just make toilet-paper turbans and babble in fake Arabic, then declare everybody’s garage a “mosque?”


40 posted on 08/09/2013 11:37:55 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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