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Oklahoma City bombing: Missing videos?
fox ^ | 9/15/13 | fox

Posted on 09/16/2013 6:55:00 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: cyn

OKC was (and probably still is) a hotbed of islamic terrorist groups.

Anyone remember the OU bombing? Nothing but muzzie fingerprints all over that case. And not even the best efforts of our government or their lapdogs (the press) can cover that fact up.


41 posted on 09/16/2013 8:34:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Too many “coincidences” have come out of Oklahoma.

For instance the discovery that Zacharias Moussoui had used Nick Berg’s laptop while Berg was a student.


42 posted on 09/16/2013 8:38:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 60Gunner
“I doubt McVeigh was a muslim convert”

In the book “American Terrorist” about McVeigh, Timothy McVeigh is quoted as saying he is an agnostic and that science is his religion.

43 posted on 09/16/2013 8:43:38 AM PDT by detective
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To: Nachum

I believe TWA fight 800 was equally fraudulent. Clinton evil all the way.


44 posted on 09/16/2013 8:45:26 AM PDT by rootntootn (Boycott Hawaii, the scene of the crime.)
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To: livius

If you do a chain of events leading up to the OKC bombing and a chain of events leading up to the attempted car bombing in NYC where they tried to blame the attempted bombing on the Tea Party because it was a fertilizer bomb like McVeigh used, you will find out they are virtually the exact same.

With OKC the dems started talking points campaign of how the right wing extremist, led by Rush, wanted to kill the president.

Clinton takes a trip to the Philippines and there was an assignation plot.

Then there was the airline plot “Bojinka”.

Then the dems had a talking point campaign of ultra violent right wing extremist wanting to overthrow the govt.

With the NYC attempted car bomb the dems started a talking points campaign of how the right wing extremist, being led by Glenn Beck, wanted to kill Obama.

Hillary takes an unannounced trip overseas and there’s an assignation plot against Hillary.

There was an airline plot, the underwear bomber.

Dems started a talking points campaign of how the ultra violent Tea Party wanted to ever throw the govt.

Anyone want’s to believe it’s just a coincidence go right ahead and believe it, I don’t.


45 posted on 09/16/2013 8:47:01 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Nachum

I think the Clinton people had a choice, so called “right-wing extremists,” or Islamists. It’s no contest. Convince the American public the greatest threat to their safety comes from the right, and then lump in all the political demographics that pose resistance to Socialist Democrats. The Obama regime has been pushing the same agenda since day one.


46 posted on 09/16/2013 8:52:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: cripplecreek

Nick Bergs father was also part of International ANSWER, which was also connected to Refuse and Resist which was leading the charge for Hillary’s Scorched Earth Policy in 1999, which comes directly from the Weather Underground playbook.


47 posted on 09/16/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: S.O.S121.500

can someone, anyone, show me a picture of the bomb crater???

not a sketch or a drawing, but an actual photograph???


48 posted on 09/16/2013 8:55:37 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: null and void

the federal gub mint confiscated ALL surveillance film in okie city the day of the bombing and has NVER let anyone see them nor have they given them back to their rightful owners.
This federal gub mint was involved and is as dirty as it gets.
In this and so many other dirty little incidents


49 posted on 09/16/2013 8:55:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: IMR 4350

Berg had been interviewed by Michael Moore but after Berg was killed, Moore refused to release the interview.


50 posted on 09/16/2013 9:01:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Noamie

Ruby Ridge was on Bush’s watch IIRC. The evil that has taken over our government is bipartisan. Once we start realizing this, we may be able to do something about it.


51 posted on 09/16/2013 9:01:35 AM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: cripplecreek

I know Berg made the statement the terrorist had just killed their best friend, referring to his son.


52 posted on 09/16/2013 9:10:04 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: justlurking

Those tapes are probably with the shell casings and doors from the compound in Waco that were “lost” also.


53 posted on 09/16/2013 9:13:28 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Both Richard Minitier and Peter Lance---excellent researchers whom I trust---took the report of a third bomber (and Islamic type) seriously. Although they both reject Jayna Davis's evidence, they did think it serious enough to fully examine and not blow her off.

I still am skeptical that Nichols new enough to make the bomb, and his presence in Manila about the same time as Khalid Sheikh Mohammad is still highly suspicious.

54 posted on 09/16/2013 9:15:32 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Are you kidding?

These people taking the feds to court are totally credible...The Feds in their own words admit the video exists. You can’t believe a single word government says...About anything.


55 posted on 09/16/2013 9:23:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Have you ever seen anyone executed as quickly as Tim McVey? and not a peek about cruel and unusual punishment from the left?

Keep in mind that the left is NOT hypocritical. They are liars and doing exactly what they believe in. No errors no omissions no goof ups just only what they have planned to do all of the time.

56 posted on 09/16/2013 9:24:53 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: Noamie; Doogle
Mr.Holder had his paws involved back then...” At Waco, too. IF you remember what was going on back then with Ruby Ridge and everything else then this claim has some actual legitimacy. The War on the Conservative Citizen, the individual, and/or the Veteran is not something Obama invented. Heck even the IRS was in on it back then. Democrats are truly an evil bunch.

Ruby Ridge occurred under the Bush dynasty.

57 posted on 09/16/2013 9:30:08 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: zeugma

I’m going to counter by saying that the evil in our government isn’t partisan at all.

It is simply the inevitable result of powerful unelected government agencies whom have no allegiance to the citizen. A story as old as man.

One solution is to neuter the Federal agencies and to make it so that agency heads are appointed by the Legislature, not by the President.

You’re right though - Corrupt governments are the norm, not the exception. There is no known solution except to make elected officials afraid of the citizenry.


58 posted on 09/16/2013 9:31:12 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie; Doogle
IF you remember what was going on back then with Ruby Ridge and everything else then this claim has some actual legitimacy. The War on the Conservative Citizen, the individual, and/or the Veteran is not something Obama invented. Heck even the IRS was in on it back then. Democrats are truly an evil bunch.

This is the last photograph of Vicki Weaver before she was killed by an FBI sniper 22 Aug 1992 in the Ruby Ridge standoff. It was taken by USMS surveillance the morning of 21 Aug 1992 and was evidence at the subsequent trial.

All under the Bush dynasty.

A dangerous international terrorist standing outside her remote cabin?

59 posted on 09/16/2013 9:39:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Look into the bomb damage tests done at Eglin ABF on a test structure build similar to the Murrah Building.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/multibla.html

Conclusions at the end of the article:

“Mike Smith, a civil engineer in Cartersville, Georgia commissioned to
review the Eglin Blast Effects Study, states:

The results of the Blast Effect Test One on the Eglin Test Structure
present strong evidence that a single Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil
device of approximately 4800 lbs. placed inside a truck could not have
caused the damage to the Murrah federal Building experienced on April
19, 1995. Even assuming that the building had structural deficiencies
and that the ANFO device was constructed with racing fuel, the
air-coupled blast produced from this 4800 lb. device would not have
damaged the columns and beams of the Murrah Building enough to produce
a catastrophic failure.

Robert Frias, president of Frias Engineering of Arlington, Texas,
after examining the EBES, concluded: “The Murrah Building would
still be standing and the upper floors would be intact had the truck
loaded with explosives been the only culprit.” Moreover, Frias, a
practicing engineer for over 40 years and a registered engineer in
Texas, New Mexico, and Louisiana, stated: “Explosives had to have
been placed near, or on, the structural columns inside the building to
cause the collapse that occurred to the Murrah Building.”

Likewise, Alvin Norberg, a licensed professional engineer in Auburn,
California with over 50 years of engineering experience on over 5,000
construction projects, writes that evidence from the ETS data
“verifies that the severe structural damage to the Murrah
Building was not caused by a truck bomb outside the building,”
and that “the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building was the
result of ‘mechanically coupled devices’ (bombs) placed
locally within the structure adjacent to the critical columns.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of
engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his
evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ...
further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the
Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.”


60 posted on 09/16/2013 9:42:40 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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