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The Irrational Fear of GM Food
WorldFoodPrize.org ^ | Oct. 22, 2013 | MARC VAN MONTAGU

Posted on 11/09/2013 1:48:05 AM PST by iowamark

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To: JRandomFreeper
By using the full force of government, which includes the potential of armed men enforcing laws or causing financial destitution.

Force, for when you can't convince someone to do what you want with argument.

Right. The last time I purchased a car I had an armed Government Agent with me just in case the Dealer didn't give me the deal I wanted on the car.

Your argument is really lacking .........

61 posted on 11/09/2013 7:24:14 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. -- George Washington

I'm opposed to sending government men with guns to enforce something that congress wasn't given the power to enforce in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

Tell the food sellers you won't buy if they don't disclose the information you want them to. But to send men with guns to enforce your desire does smack of totalitarianism.

/johnny

62 posted on 11/09/2013 7:24:45 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: usconservative
If government passes a law that requires what you desire, and a company choses not to comply, men with guns WILL enforce that unconstitutional law.

That's how governments work. Disobey and men with guns intervene.

/johnny

63 posted on 11/09/2013 7:26:26 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Tell the food sellers you won't buy if they don't disclose the information you want them to. But to send men with guns to enforce your desire does smack of totalitarianism.

Where are these armed men you speak of? Why are you against Consumers making fully informed choices about what they will/will not purchase?

Would you buy a new car without a window sticker telling you what's inside, the safety features, etc?? Of course not. Yet, you advocate forcing consumers (borrowing from you there...) purchasing food that's not labeled for what it is.

Stunning logic you have there.

64 posted on 11/09/2013 7:27:39 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Federal agents of the FDA, USDA, etc... do enforce the labeling laws. If someone resists, they will be met with armed force.

That's how government works.

I'm not against consumers making fully informed choices. I'm against using the force of government to enforce laws that congress wasn't given the authority to make.

It's pretty simple.

/johnny

65 posted on 11/09/2013 7:31:13 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: southern rock
drivel....... virtually all food is genetically modified

Hopi Corn

Iowa Corn

The current "GM food agin' "is the same as the old stand by "Flouride agin'"

66 posted on 11/09/2013 7:31:57 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: usconservative
Yet, you advocate forcing consumers (borrowing from you there...) purchasing food that's not labeled for what it is.

False. I do not advocate forcing consumers to do anything. The consumer has the option of not buying if he isn't satisfied with any aspect of the product, including how it is labeled.

You want to make it a crime to fail to label in the manner you chose.

/johnny

67 posted on 11/09/2013 7:33:23 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: usconservative

“ROFL!! OH MY SIDES!!! “

Liberals usually think they are right and the rest of us are insane or laughable.

Who is to say what is labeled on the product? You? How much information must be labeled. So, yes, government control over product labeling is totalitarianism. You liberals think government intervention is always the answer.

If you don’t like the product’s labeling then don’t buy it. THAT is free market.


68 posted on 11/09/2013 7:34:32 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: usconservative

Saved me some writing because I also believe GMO should be labeled. I think Monsanto and other companies are fighting a losing battle because labeling will eventually be approved by voters.


69 posted on 11/09/2013 7:34:46 AM PST by soupbone1
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To: usconservative
"Where are these armed men you speak of?"

You seriously think you are knowledgeable and smart enough to know what GMO foods are when you don't even know that the government uses force against food producers?

Raw Food Raid: Armed Agents Bust Raw Milk & Cheese Sellers

70 posted on 11/09/2013 7:37:30 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: soupbone1

“labeling will eventually be approved by voters.”

By idiots.

We’ve been labeling food for years because idiots thought that would lead to better foods and informed choices, but it hasn’t. We said it would lead to more and more labeling and government intervention and it has. Costs have increased on food because of all this nanny-state crap. The basic labeling ash been to appease morons that think they know what they are reading, so they give those morons “Proteins”, “Sugar”, etc on the label and the morons run around thinking they know what’s in the product. They haven’t a clue about the hundreds of other considerations about food.


71 posted on 11/09/2013 7:40:44 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I never said anything about using government to enforce such a thing.

There are other ways to do it, such as industry associations setting and ensuring that standards are met.

Besides, force is not always bad. We weren’t able to argue to Hitler that he should not exterminate millions of people and invade other countries.


72 posted on 11/09/2013 7:42:01 AM PST by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: soupbone1
How will a small, local food producer be able to certify there are no GMO ingredients in their product? More unintended consequences of using the blunt force of government by nanny-staters.

/johnny

73 posted on 11/09/2013 7:44:12 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bert

Do you not know the difference between natural hybridization through breeding and inserting genetic material from organisms that don’t even belong to the same kingdom?


74 posted on 11/09/2013 7:45:47 AM PST by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: EricT.
Many here are arguing to make failure to label a crime.

If that was not your intent, I misunderstood.

/johnny

75 posted on 11/09/2013 7:46:33 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: iowamark

I find it astounding that people who have never felt the pangs of hunger should decide that making less food available is acceptable.

The Green Revolution, Golden rice, GM foods, anything that feeds more people is a evil plot but only in the minds of those with full bellies.


76 posted on 11/09/2013 8:00:17 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: EricT.

“Besides, force is not always bad. “

There is a difference between war and peace. This is peace we are talking about. Waging war on everyone is not the country I want.


77 posted on 11/09/2013 8:07:00 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: EricT.

Your can’t wash the pesticides off the GMO crops, it grows inside it.


As it does in potato, tomato, squash, etc. plants. Wonder if science stole the idea from Dame Nature.....

Panty twisting Chicken Littles abound....even on FR.


78 posted on 11/09/2013 8:19:13 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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BTW, those of you that are food label Nazis and think the government food labeling is reasonable have just sunk the entire restaurant industry with ObamaCare.

Under ObamaCare food that isn’t labeled, including food sold in restaurants, cannot be sold, so come January 1st most restaurants will close. It is a big disbelief right now in the industry. People cannot believe they will have to close their businesses. They are stunned, but word is getting out about this.


79 posted on 11/09/2013 8:19:16 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The sun causes more genetic modification through mutation every day than a planet full of scary scientists. Try controlling that.


80 posted on 11/09/2013 8:21:46 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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