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‘Keep Your Plan’ bill puts Obama in bind (Democratic unity is cracking)
The Hill ^ | 11/08/13 | Justin Sink

Posted on 11/09/2013 5:18:13 PM PST by Libloather

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To: fortheDeclaration

“They can’t make any adjustments to this law, it will fall apart and they know it!”

This is it essentially. The scheme is creaky and fragile as it is so start jiggering with any of it’s various parts and the whole things starts to wobble out of its axis. We may need no new bill when one considers the Obamacare website. It will not be functioning anywhere near 100% on 12/1 so all of the deadlines set will crumble away as they can’t possibly be met.

It’s a gawd dammed clusterfark and there’s no way other to describe it.


61 posted on 11/09/2013 8:25:59 PM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

Oh, and, Barry can’t run from this. He simply can’t.

We’ll see him break publicly over this. The remainder of his Presidency will be plagued with the omnipresent issue of millions of Americans without health insurance as the result of governmental action. It will loom large and loud.


62 posted on 11/09/2013 8:31:20 PM PST by FAA
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To: Libloather
"The bill puts Obama in a tough spot."


63 posted on 11/09/2013 8:48:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Libloather
"Democratic unity is cracking amid the troubled rollout of the healthcare law."



64 posted on 11/09/2013 8:56:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Libloather
“If the president is sincerely sorry that he misled the American people, the very least he can do is support this bipartisan effort,” Boehner said in a statement Thursday night. “Otherwise, this apology doesn’t amount to anything.”

Ouch.

You know you're f***ed as a President when the most spineless weenie Speaker in recent memory has the cojones to say something like that.

65 posted on 11/09/2013 8:59:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: All
"...it's unclear where the administration will go from here."

Mark my words. Obama and his fellow travelers in Congress are going to be all in on repealing this disastrous legislation before this is all over.

To do otherwise, is to consign their party to death.

66 posted on 11/09/2013 9:04:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BenLurkin
The need to repeal Obaamcare in its entirety should be obvious to everyone in Congress.

I'm not sure they can rewind everything that's transpired to this point. The damage to the health care industry is moving at light speed.

67 posted on 11/09/2013 9:05:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Libloather

Republicans should do absolutely nothing to help with correcting the pain of Obamacare. They should insist on its full implementation now, for everyone including government workers. They should also say they will kill Obamacare when they have a veto proof majority in the Senate.

Obama made it, let him and the Senate live with it or die politically due to their actions.


68 posted on 11/09/2013 9:06:49 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Venturer

I hope on the golf course he thanked the Libyan ambassador and the other three men who died so quietly so he could be reelected.


69 posted on 11/09/2013 9:18:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
...this is what Republicans do. Instead of killing socialist legislation, they want to "make it work better." It's their turn to feed at the trough next year.

If the congressional Republicans settle for anything other than complete repeal of this monstrosity, then they will die along with their 'friends across the aisle'.

It's time to put this thing on Cruz control.

70 posted on 11/09/2013 9:29:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ Taylor
...they either overestimated the Republican Party, or the Republicans saw this disaster coming and just stepped aside and let the Democrat Party shoot themselves in the foot.

It's partially just partisan politics as usual, but mostly the latter. Obamacare was always too fantastical to work in the real world. The Republicans knew this, but they were in the minority, and couldn't convince the Dems of their folly. They wisely stepped back and let the Dems seal their fate.

71 posted on 11/09/2013 9:33:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Defiant
I have not heard an explanation of how this would work. How are they going to make insurance companies keep providing plans that existed before Obamacare?

How are they going to resurrect plans that have already been canceled? What are they going to do to allow companies to keep their plans as they were, without all the costs involved with complying with Obamacare?

I don’t see how such legislation is even workable, within the context of Obamacare existing. The only solution is to get rid of it completely.

It's pretty obvious that passing legislation that allows existing plans to remain in force would essentially kill Obamacare. Without the responsible, tax paying middle class (and the young heathies) to pay for this thing, it crumbles into useless pieces.

What if the plan you liked was 'no plan'? Millions of Americans roll that way. Putting the individual's power of choice back into the equation fundamentally undoes the basic transformation of the citizens' relationship inherent in Obamacare - which was sort of the point all along.

Bottom line.....Obama and his Communist cronies thought they could turn 240 years of American history and ingrained culture on its head with one vote of Congress. They're quickly finding out that they made an enormous blunder. Had they simply kept to their Socialist forerunners' strategy of slow incremental change, none of this backlash would be happening.

72 posted on 11/09/2013 9:44:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fungi
The ship is sinking, the train is running off the tracks, the car is running on four flat tires, and yet they persist.

That's only how it looks from the outside, and through the filter of the protective media. On the inside, they're in a terror that can only be compared to a psychotic break, or a bad LSD trip.

73 posted on 11/09/2013 9:47:15 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Either Congress scraps it or they get scrapped. Just a matter of time.

Yep!

That's becoming clearer by the hour. The smarter Dems are already trying to get out ahead of the fast approaching political realizations about this historic boondoggle.

"Nix it - don't fix it!"

74 posted on 11/09/2013 9:50:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We’d not have the privilege of watching the Democrat show go to pieces had Roberts done the “right” thing.

Interesting how that's worked out, isn't it?

I've been down on Roberts since he rendered his opinion on Obamacare, but there certainly is a kind of serendipitous outcome developing because of his decision.

He could have saved the country all this turmoil, but in hindsight, maybe it's better that he didn't. The Commies could wind up in the wilderness for decades because of Obamacare.

That's an outcome I can live with :-)

75 posted on 11/09/2013 9:56:14 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Mark my words. Obama and his fellow travelers in Congress are going to be all in on repealing this disastrous legislation before this is all over.

To do otherwise, is to consign their party to death.

Precisely.

Remind them: "It's settled law. Get over it."

No delays. No modifications. Forward!

76 posted on 11/09/2013 10:27:37 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76
Remind them: "It's settled law. Get over it."

No delays. No modifications. Forward!

LOL!

Sorry, but I can't help it. I'm having such a good time watching this historic boondoggle unfold. The left has had this coming for such a long time. I can't lie -- I'm really enjoying watching them squirm in their self-created fire.



77 posted on 11/09/2013 10:37:29 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cpdiii

I thought this too at first blush. As weak and feckless as the Republican leadership is, they might have accidentally stumbled onto something. The biggest complaint I hear is that this will give Democrats breathing room for the election. Well I been hearing about the cancellations for the last month or two. They are for 2014.

Guess what, when do you think the employer and new single policy cancellations will be out next year if delayed? If you said October / November you’d be right. All the pain the Democrats feel now will be brought forth right before the next election. I know RINOs are too stupid to see this on their own but I support the delay even if it does not change too much.


78 posted on 11/09/2013 11:41:24 PM PST by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: Libloather

“Obama is clearly looking to repair the damage, and on Thursday said he’s “assigned my team to see what we can do to close some of the holes and gaps in the law.”

TRANSLATION. Valerie told me to say that.

r


79 posted on 11/10/2013 5:55:33 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Jane Long

Let’s not snatch defeat from the jaws of defeat.


80 posted on 11/10/2013 5:59:08 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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