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Can Conservatives Take Over the GOP?
Americans for a Free Republic ^ | November 12, 2013 | Nelson Hultberg

Posted on 11/12/2013 10:40:17 AM PST by Nelson Hultberg

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Tea Party activists are making a serious mistake to think that the Republican Party can be taken over simply by electing "conservative legislators" to go to Washington. The Neocon intellectual-financial power elites are way too much in control for that to take place. There is another route, however, to pursue, which will bring victory for the conservative cause in 2016. But it will require as Steve Jobs always said to, "THINK DIFFERENT!"
1 posted on 11/12/2013 10:40:17 AM PST by Nelson Hultberg
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This must’ve been how Ted Cruz and Rand Paul felt:

http://youtu.be/zWyEc7FAMTg

2 posted on 11/12/2013 10:46:12 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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3 posted on 11/12/2013 10:47:00 AM PST by babble-on
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Consequently the GOP is now a carbon copy of the Democrat Party.

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Hey! I resent that. At least the Democrat Party is effective in their goals. The Stupid Party - on the other hand....


4 posted on 11/12/2013 10:51:14 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Nelson Hultberg

I agree with this article. The party left me long ago.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 10:52:13 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: babble-on

Really? And where do you disagree? What evidence is there to refute what’s in this article?

Please enlighten us.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 10:53:15 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Nelson Hultberg

More acrobatics to help the gopsies.

Don’t even go there.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 10:53:37 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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On a slightly different note, Drudge has the James O’Keefe expose of Obamacare Navigators linked, and it looks like it’s brought the National Review website down temporarily. But when it’s back, watch the video here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund

There are TWO stories here. Obviously the big one is the fraud and corruption in the Obamacare program.

But pay attention to the other story, which comes out strongly in the “Texas” segment, which shows exactly how organized groups are aiming to “Make Texas a Blue State”.

The point is this: This is first-hand testimony for how hard the Other Side is willing to work, how organized they are, and how much money they are putting into their efforts.

What are WE doing?

Where’s the Tea Party, in comparison? Who is pumping similar organizational and financial resources into a Conservative Movement?

The answer is: No One. And that has to change if we expect to do what the title of this thread suggests. And time’s a wastin’...

Say what you will about George Soros and his influence, but he’s put his money where his mouth is. Where is the Conservative equivalent to MoveOn, Media Matters, Battleground Texas, and all the rest?

In this case, the Liberals/Democrats are going to war, and Conservatives are the ones hiding in the bushes.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 10:57:05 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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“In other words it is impossible to change the structure of an institution without changing the source of its power”

This is absolutely true. It’s a law of nature. It’s immutable.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 10:57:17 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Great news. If the AFR is indeed “the ticket” then how many AFR congressmen do we have right now in DC? If the republican party is a lost cause and can’t be fixed they why don’t the AFR congressmen stop what is going on in DC?


10 posted on 11/12/2013 10:59:23 AM PST by plain talk
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Hey! I resent that. At least the Democrat Party is effective in their goals. The Stupid Party - on the other hand....

Trouble is, they ARE effective in their goals. Their goals are simply not the ones they state publicly.

11 posted on 11/12/2013 11:02:01 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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I won’t attempt to answer for him/her, but where conservatives are making headway in the GOP is in Red state legislatures. The article doesn’t address state politics, which is where I believe reform is possible. The GOP in DC is a lost cause, and I believe conservatives aught to walk away from it.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 11:03:56 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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With every attack by the establishment on the Tea Party I am getting more in line with this approach.

The question is whether we would have more influence on policy out side the party or inside. Right now I am not sure, but if they nominate a Cristy type again I am gone.

If we break it will be quickly evident to the establishment Repubs that they will be completely incapable of passing anything without our support, thus they will have no choice but to work with us.

But I am afraid and its a real possibility that the establishment Repubs are more in line with the Dems than with us.

Any one want to hazard a guess how fast McCain would switch parties if the Senate was evenly split in the 2014 election?

13 posted on 11/12/2013 11:04:26 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: bigbob

Koch Bros.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 11:05:18 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Nelson Hultberg

Yes, but it requires that conservatives GET OFF OF THEIR BUTTS, and work hard in the Primaries!!!


15 posted on 11/12/2013 11:07:11 AM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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Patrick Moynihan infiltrated the Republican Party?


16 posted on 11/12/2013 11:08:29 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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But it will require as Steve Jobs always said to, “THINK DIFFERENT!”


The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves and then we will save our country - Abraham Lincoln

It is high time to stop trying the same failed strategy over and over.

17 posted on 11/12/2013 11:11:30 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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Tea Party, not conservatives. A wise man, Dr. William Pierce (who also wrote some not wise stuff) compared conservatives to people living in a castle. While they are inside the castle, the enemy is constantly chipping away at the walls. We need to react and not hunker down.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 11:12:27 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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RE :”How then do we defeat this neocon corruption? Only by leaving the GOP and forming an alternative independent party with an independent candidate (as Ross Perot did in 1992). “

Ross Perot 1992?
Didnt that end up with two Clinton terms?

19 posted on 11/12/2013 11:13:21 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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Can hetero’s take over gay-loving church denominations?
Can the orthodox take over the RCC?
Can real men take over the military?
Can...


20 posted on 11/12/2013 11:15:17 AM PST by polymuser
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