The Founders Would Not Be Thankful For These 10 Things

>> Thank goodness Cook County townships are defunct in the city or I’d have another wonderful layer of local government. <<

Yep, big government and layers of bureaucracy is just plain awesome and works great for our Republic, as long as its not done at the federal level. We definitely need townships in the city of Chicago so we can have more local government standing up for Illinois soverignity. I'm sure whichever fatcat was named Supervisor of Hyde Park Township would do a great job. And why stop at repealing the 17th? Politicians appointing other politicians is such a GREAT idea for having a body of wise statesmen, we should have the state Senate 100% appointed by politicians too, and let city alderman and village trustees appoint whoever they want to serve for life. Then we'd never have maverick people like Chris Lauzen elected to the Illinois Senate by those rascally voters. Why stop at 50 alderman? Chicago should have at least 100 of 'em, so those fine upstanding patriots can stand up to the feds and fight for states rights. And hey, we need to get those alderman appointed by other politicians as well (maybe we can create a new "Alderman vetting board" of paid advisers to Rahm to make recommendations for him) -- you just can't trust the voters, they might actually vote a criminal out of office now and then...

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>> But understand that AM talk radio is imagination-land. In it anything could happen if only Americans would do what they will never do. What has 1/8 of 1% of US population heard this idea <<

I've found that arguing with the Levinites on the right is similar to arguing with the pro-gay marriage crowd on the left.

The gay marriage cheerleaders will insist that their idea is a guaranteed RIGHT that is enshrined forever, and that anyone who doesn't agree with them "hates America", even though NOBODY in America was even aware of the concept or entertained the thought of passing it a decade ago. The gist of their argument, which they will beat you over the head with over and over again, is that "consenting adults" deserve "equal" rights to marry whoever they want because of "love". Of course, once you hold them to this standard, and inquire about whether they will stand by their OWN rules and support legalizing incest and polygamy marriages, they will respond with personal ad hominem attacks and hurl insults at you.

Likewise, the Levin worshippers will insist that their idea is a guaranteed RIGHT that is enshrined forever, and that anyone who doesn't agree with them "hates America", even though NOBODY in America was even aware of the concept or entertained the thought of passing it a decade ago. The gist of their argument, which they will beat you over the head with over and over again, is that everything that "the founders" wrote down in 1789 was an infallible perfect form of government, and that altering or amending that system of government in any way will "destroy our Republic", and how DARE anyone claim to "to know better than the framers" Of course, once you hold them to this standard, and inquire about whether they will stand by their OWN rules and will support repealing the 12th amendment and restricting voting to only white male property owners, they will respond with personal ad hominem attacks and hurl insults at you.

Except as competing visions those libs who push gay rights crap are overwhelmingly winning over those like Levin who claim that some state of America in the 1700s that he describes is the only legitimate one.

The libs portray their vision as a future moving forward one.(’lean forward’). It is attractive sounding to the young. Obviously the problems with Obamacare are setbacks but only to the co.llectivist part of progressivism

Levin is obviously preaching about some past state (even before he was born) that can never come back, that never will be again, if it ever was the way he portrays it.

The Founding Fathers couldn’t have Dreamed of today’s world, the one we have to live in.

Excellent point. That's the real problem -- both sides blindly worship their overlord (who can do no wrong in their eyes) and use similarly flawed, in-your-face arguments to pitch their destructive agenda, but the Obamabots on the left are succeeding wildly whereas as the Levinites on the right are pushing stuff that's politically poisonous to voters and that they have ZERO chance of actually enacting.

The difference lies in the marketing... Obamabots portray their agenda as hip, cool, trendy, the wave of the future, inevitable, and preach the idea that its a noble crusade for a "civil right" and you must be a bigot and a hate-monger if you don't do what they want. Don't you want to be on the modern day side of Martin Luther King?

The Levinites could care less about emotional "love/popularity/tolerance" arguments and won't bother trying to convince anyone that empowering state politicians is a "civil right", even when they scream that state legislators are being discriminated against by the feds. And you really can't claim that having politicians appointed Senators in cutting edge unless a bunch of European nations started passing it tomorrow to cheering throngs of MTV viewers. As it stands, most of these Europeans nations have ALREADY had that "ideal" system in place for centuries, and everyone over there is sick and tired of it. If you want to be "hip and cool and forward thinking" over there, you promise to have a popularly elected Senate, even if have no intent whatsoever of actually doing it.

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