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Feds announce plans for stricter wood stove regulations (EPA again)
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner ^ | January 5, 2014 | Matt Buxton

Posted on 01/07/2014 8:04:38 AM PST by CedarDave

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To: woodbutcher1963

Dear Woodbutcher1963,

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Yes, I am going to stay with LOPI when we build our house in a few years.

Glad you have plenty of wood to cut.

I am pushing 52 years of age and am finding out that getting the wood cut, hauled and split is not as “easy” as it used to be. Still, nothing beats the heat like wood one has cut and split themselves!

Keep warm!

MFO


101 posted on 01/08/2014 7:36:52 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: woodbutcher1963

Jotul is a Swedish company? LOPI is a USA company.


102 posted on 01/08/2014 7:43:15 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Man from Oz

This just come across my browser.

Interesting!

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/11/how-to-easily-heat-your-home-using-flower-pots-and-tea-lights.html


103 posted on 01/08/2014 8:03:37 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: X-spurt

Jotul is a Norway company.


104 posted on 01/08/2014 8:10:53 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: X-spurt

Lopi are made in Washington State.


105 posted on 01/08/2014 8:11:49 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Man from Oz

I feel your pain. I am a 1963 vintage. However, I have 15 year old son who just LOVES to help split, stack and haul wood.

Another stove that gets very good reviews on both hearth.com and wiseheat.com is Blaze King. I do not have any first hand experience. However, the owners seem to rave about them on these two forums. The reviews from owners is what has drawn me to the Woodstock soapstone products. I have never read one bad review about their products or after sale service. In fact, what I have read is that they excel at after the sale service.


106 posted on 01/08/2014 8:20:34 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Well, Made in Washington is closer to MADE IN AMERICA than Made in Norway.

LOPI is NOT cast iron, which is a plus for me.


107 posted on 01/08/2014 11:15:13 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

...”my stove can get my downstairs room, where it’s located, so hot that I can only loll around bare-chested in shorts when it does that”.....

Better that then having to curl up in a blanket to keep warm! Which over this cold front I understood some chose to do to conserve costs.

I have no water today as some sewer project froze up the city was working on, so they ‘shut off water’ to re-do the project today! Really sucks!


108 posted on 01/08/2014 11:33:47 AM PST by caww
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To: Vendome

lololol...just saw your post...silly day!


109 posted on 01/08/2014 11:36:30 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Stay non-thirsty, my friend.


110 posted on 01/08/2014 12:27:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: X-spurt

Actually, Lopi make both steel and cast iron stoves. Check their website:

http://www.lopistoves.com/productselect.aspx?fuel=wood-stove

There are benefits to steel, cast iron and soap stove.
Steel heats up real fast, it also cools down fast. Cast iron takes longer to heat up, but radiates heat longer after the fire dies down. Cast iron is more expensive to manufacture than steel. Lastly, soap stone takes longer to heat up, but it will radiate heat for hours AFTER the fire goes out. It will also not heat you out of the room that the stove is in. You can also touch the stone when the fire is going and you will not burn your hand. The soap stone/cast iron stoves made by Hearthstone and Woodstock are the most expensive on the market. They are assembled in NH and VT. The soapstone comes out of VT.


111 posted on 01/09/2014 6:01:25 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Great info!
Soapstone sounds like the cat’s meow. If ever buy another it will be on top of my list. Have a friend in Colorado who found an old big round brass one, it puts the heat out.

The one thing about the steel stove, it will HEAT UP the room its in. In Texas we usually don’t have killin cold winters, I bank it up around 10:30 and still lots of hot at 0700 while running the AC fan to circulate throughout the house.


112 posted on 01/09/2014 10:30:46 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

Steel stoves are great for heating up a room quickly. You can be down to sitting in your boxer shorts in a very short period of time.

Also, because of computerized plasma cutters they can make stoves out of steel for much less cost than iron castings.

Woodstock is coming out this year with a stove that will be a steel/soap stone hybrid stove. They are thinking it will sell for about $2K. They are in the testing phase of it right now. They are waiting for UL approval.


113 posted on 01/10/2014 7:36:14 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: CedarDave

Didn’t notice this til today, after reading it on another site I did a search.

The way the EPA works is in concert with numerous non-profit environmentalist groups. First, the environmentalists file a lawsuit, then the EPA responds by writing the regulations; thus going around congress.

Maybe we’re too busy being outraged to see that they’ve been wielding a double edged sword. What if conservative groups formed to file counter-suits, say on behalf of the millions who now, or in the future as fuel prices increase, will, depend on wood stoves for heat? Doesn’t this deny them a basic human right?

Cloward-Piven could work for us too.


114 posted on 02/19/2014 9:25:08 AM PST by tsomer
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