Posted on 01/28/2014 5:37:17 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
Marks got a whole 5 day-2 hour show telling us things that will never happen, this is just one.
It would be nice to see the GOP fight, even if its futile, better than laying down and doing nothing
If an executive order is believed to be unconstitutional it can already be challenged. If the court reviews it and finds it wanting then it is null and void.
If I read this correctly then they mention the House deciding if an order is constitutional or not. Wouldn't that just be unfairly snatching constitutional review from the courts?
I'm fairly certain I wouldn't want a (D) House deciding if Obama’s executive orders were constitutional without a court review.
Anything you want to tell us, nully?
:)
In fact in that way Levin's show is like Obama’s SOTU.
Full of demands on congress for things that will never be law.
I usually catch his first half hour in my car.
I'd say that it's irrelevant.
Nothing is unconstitutional until someone stands up and opposes it.
So far, Obama seems to be the only one willing to declare what is doable and what is not. Obama went so far as to declare that the Congress was in recess, when both the House and the Senate declared otherwise.
The Congress' response was to go to court. Levin is demanding that Congress be more assertive -- no, be just as assertive as Obama and declare for themselves what the outcomes will be, just as Obama has ceded to himself to do.
There is a logic to it. If Congress is co-equal, then anything that Obama declares he can do, Congress can declare too. If Obama says that he can raise federal minimum wages on his own, the House can declare that they forbid it.
The problem today is that Obama is bold and audacious, and the House is not.
-PJ
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I'd like to quote Darks:
It's not my fault.
>> I'd say that it's irrelevant. <<
If it's irrelevant, then passing such a law would also be irrelevant, due to Congress having no way to enforce the law since they can't prove something is "unconstitutional" and put the law into effect. It would be meaningless "feel good" legislation, like "A sense of Congress resolution that taxes should be lower" that becomes law.
On the flip side, if ANYONE in Congress can evoke the law simply by "standing up" and claiming so-and-so executive order is "unconstitutional", then the RATs would immediately use the law to try and nullify every single executive order implemented by a Republican President.
What we have now is one branch willing to go to the House of the other branch and piss all over them, and the other branch is not willing to stand up for themselves. Imagine being invited over to a friend's house for dinner, and all you do when you get there is tell them how run down their sofa is, how dirty their kitchen is, how stupid their children are... and then later having your hosts say how eloquent you were when you spoke instead of saying how disrespectful you were, how you were the problem, how nothing you said was constructive, etc.
That's what we need the House leadership to do. Start throwing it back at Obama and begin to assert their own powers, whether it's decided to be Constitutional or not.
That's what it always seems to come down to these past few decades. Democrats don't care about the Constitutionality. They throw it out there anyway for immediate effect, and worry about the legal stuff later when it's too late to unwind. Republicans worry about the legalities first, and most often talk themselves into inaction because they envision a final result that goes against them later. So, in the short term they get bullied and run over again and again.
-PJ
I missed Levin tonight. He said that?
But Mark, unconstitutional acts by the POTUS are already null and void by law, as are unconstitutional laws.
A funny thing about Levin, Every night he rants that the House GOP just lets Obama get away with doing stuff, and he suggests meaningless stuff like this.
Whether it's legally impactful or not, it gets people talking about the House taking a stand. They're not saying that now.
And Obama being Obama, he'll feel compelled to respond in some snarky way, which will generate more talk.
-PJ
Sure they will get them talking about the House, the talk will be just more ridicule for symbolic silliness.
Hell Mark, they repealed Obama care dozens of times symbolically.
But you complain that was just symbolism.
The show is on for three hours per day, so you're probably missing an hour on the affiliate station you're listening to.
Things that will never happen? At least he presents good alternative ideas. Remember there have been good policy suggestions in the past that were scoffed at by many at first before they gained popularity and eventually became reality.
The show is on for three hours per day, so you're probably missing an hour on the affiliate station you're listening to.
Things that will never happen? At least he presents good alternative ideas. Remember there have been good policy suggestions in the past that were scoffed at by many at first before they gained popularity and eventually became reality.
On WBAL its delayed an hour, starts at 7pm.
But most times my car picks up WMAL (DC) and sometimes WABC77 NYC and it starts at 6pm.
I only catch the first half hour because I am driving then anyway.
Most of his ‘ideas’ have zero chance of ever being tried, which has the convenience of not having to ever be tested and failed.
Mark mainly preaches to his choir who accept whatever he says, so he will not be creating any ground-swelling popularity shifts,
There is plenty of room for debate as to how ‘good’ those ideas are(especially like this one) , but given that they wont be tried it really doesn't matter.
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