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Grain Piles Up, Waiting for a Ride, as Trains Move North Dakota Oil
New York Times ^ | August 25, 2014 | RON NIXON

Posted on 08/26/2014 8:57:37 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

There’s always trucking.


21 posted on 08/26/2014 10:49:27 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

Atlas ping. In the book, it was soybeans, not oil, but the result is the same.


22 posted on 08/26/2014 10:54:50 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Wesley Moochelle can solve the problem....................


23 posted on 08/26/2014 10:58:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: reaganaut1

Bulk Ag is my business. Give me a shot at it!


24 posted on 08/26/2014 10:59:46 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born here in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: reaganaut1

Gee if only there was a way to transport oil without needed a train.


25 posted on 08/26/2014 11:00:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Publius

Just so long as the Smather brothers get their grapefruit hauled.


26 posted on 08/26/2014 11:02:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Publius
Ma Chalmers, IIRC. Who was a self-proclaimed, unelected "expert" on diet who had a great deal of political clout based on whom she was related to.

That...sounds...familiar...

27 posted on 08/26/2014 11:03:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

yes it does


28 posted on 08/26/2014 11:03:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: outofsalt
I know! Build a pipeline to transport grain!

Distill it into alcohol first, then pipe it to me.

29 posted on 08/26/2014 11:20:57 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: reaganaut1

They are welcome to find other means to transport their commodity. Unit CBR is hot and hazmat has good tarrifs. Shortline originators are benefitting tremendously.


30 posted on 08/26/2014 12:51:36 PM PDT by Rodamala
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I can imagine vacuum rings inside a pipe line to pull grain along. I used to have a fantasy of elevated pipe lines to replace long haul trucks. With computers and conveyor belts to direct to delivery point warehouses. I still think it would work. At end point you have UPS or FedX.


31 posted on 08/26/2014 3:35:13 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Publius

...and we all thought Rand’s central focus on railroads was an anachronism.

Oops. :-)


32 posted on 08/26/2014 9:21:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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I had the good fortune of a business trip to Fargo and points beyond in the middle of February. I decided to take the Amtrak train from Chicago. The tracks are owned by the private railway and lease time slots to Amtrak. The oil had priority over public transportation on the line that runs north out of Fargo. On the way to, I had to continue my journey via bus due to the oil traffic. It wasn't a big deal because it was only about an hours bus ride to my destination.

After I concluded my business a few days later, I had to wait in the Amtrak station about ten hours (no, I didn't mind. I always travel prepared) until the train arrived. Since the time slot had been missed, our train could only move in short runs while deferring to the oil traffic. To make a long ride short, We arrived back in Chicago about fourteen hours late. I had missed my connection so Amtrak put me up in a nice hotel for the day. It was soon after that Amtrak cancelled that route, losing money I am sure, until Washington stepped in and gave the passenger service a higher priority. The route resumed shortly after and has run closer to schedule ever since.

I just thought it was interesting how things went and the attitudes of different people I met on the trip. Some were disgusted with Amtrak and others understood it was not in their control. I like riding the train and will do it again at the next opportunity. Amtrak gets hammered a lot but it is the only service available of it's kind. The employees are friendly and helpful and the trip is usually relaxing. I don't care for driving on trips in the winter weather and felt really safe looking out the window at snow drifts towering above me as I passed through at eighty mph!

One thing I will mention is the appearance of the oil trains, either moving or at rest. They looked for all the world like a big black pipeline!

33 posted on 08/27/2014 3:05:03 PM PDT by whodathunkit
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I've taken Amtrak's Empire Builder between Chicago and Edmonds (WA) many times, and it's one of the great railway journeys of the world. I've had my own share of adventures, like when the locomotive and the rest of the train separated near Grand Forks (ND) in the middle of the night in winter.

I've also been on Amtrak routes when all the important dispatching windows were missed, and the train was hopelessly late. The relationship between Amtrak and the Class I railroads has always been tenuous, although BNSF is better than the other railroads in servicing Amtrak.

34 posted on 08/27/2014 4:22:52 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Ramius

Imagine my surprise when the oil recovered in Colorado using a revolutionary process developed by Wyatt turned out to actually exist in the form of shale oil.


35 posted on 09/01/2014 5:21:17 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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