Posted on 10/31/2014 11:20:28 AM PDT by Lorianne
There is no such exemption that I know of, certainly not under California law. They also have to pay state income tax for any money earned in CA regardless of where they work normally. I'm afraid you are living up to your handle here.
I sure as heck wouldn't want to have to work on a network built by these folks. I imagine you'd spend months debugging it.
We do this all the time. If you have an employe in another country, like Romania, you’re paying them at a rate competitive within that country - not in US$ and with taxes paid to their host country. They then get a temporary visa to travel (attained prior, through US Embassy) to the USA for a couple weeks to participate in some work. We pay for their hotel, travel and meals. Then they go home. They were never paid in US$. They pay no income taxes to the US Government. There was no exploitation, no unusual cost to them.
The only question is about the type of visa. It is no different than having to take a business trip to Canada. You must have valid paperwork, with appropriate cause (you’re not doing something a Canadian could do), they stamp your passport giving you a temporary visa (give wrong reasons and you’ll be denied entry). My regular paycheck(US$) is deposited, with taxes paid to US Gov. I don’t suddenly get paid in Canadian $ and have to pay income taxes to Canada.
H1B, Permanent Residents, etc. are different as you live here, pay local, state, federal taxes. I saw nothing saying they were living here or what visa type they had.
To clarify my handle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic
You are not I take it in California?
This is the state that goes after visiting ball players for income tax on the games they play here.
Well, dang. $1.21 is almost fully one-half of what zuckerberg has in mind.
I don’t see how this has anything to do with California. You don’t get a “temporary visa to California”, you get one to enter the USA. How would your state government know? You’re just a visitor that got entry to the USA for business purposes. That is entirely different than accepting a job in the USA full-time on an H1B visa, or attaining Permanent Resident status (which I did). In this context you must declare your state of residency, hence all the regular tax rules.
The company I work for plays by the rules. We also have our employees from around the world come to California, there’s no logistics that they have to go through because they specifically went there vs. any other state.
It might be a detail omitted, they were here on H1B visa - if that’s the case then fine but they wouldn’t be able to afford the living expenses (esp. Cali). Which is why I’m assuming that isn’t the case.
That said, question: has the state successfully received any taxes from ball players because they played in California? I know it’s a crazy state, I just don’t understand how that would be legal. The players are just doing a job that requires them to cross state lines, everybody else pays tax only to the state where they reside. Should I be worried that I could be taxed by California when I’m asked to go there for business?
PS. 40k in back wages for eight employees is an average of 5k each. That’s a lot more than 2 weeks of minimum wage, even in CA.
As far as the ballplayer issue, I don’t know where that stands now. Their claim is that any money earned in CA is subject to state income tax regardless of where you live. I remember NY claimed the same thing with Rush Limbaugh and made him account for how many days per year he stayed in his NY condo, even after he moved to FL. He ended up selling the condo because of it.
Well, our company is HQ’d in California. I don’t see anything done by the organization that is different just because we’re asked to attend a meeting in California or New York. If that were the case then none of us would be asked to go.
Maybe all our guys around the world (that visit here) make more than CA minimum wage (I didn’t think so)...so maybe that’s all that is at issue. Outside that I can’t imagine how they could, logistically, enforce it.
Anyway...hope they enjoy their computer systems, you get what you pay for.
And the unemployment office said I had to be willing to lower my wage requirements to obtain a job in the tech industry (the one with billion dollar CEOs).
if you lower your demands to $1.20 an hour, you have a shot
They only pay $1.20 an hour but you’ll make up the salary loss with volume (120 hour work weeks!).
lol
17 cent Ramen noodle, dry, provided for lunch
And I think the government gets $10,000 per visa. But it still is far cheaper than paying local skilled talent.
These business men give to the Democrat party.
17 hours a day at the office (possibly windowed to be there when the daytime staff is not around). They were brought to America to do a job quick and cheaply. They were not brought here to sightsee.
They are probably fed meals (on the clock) at the office. Just because they were "billing" the hours does not mean that they didn't have paid breaks. They were just kept at the work location, working the 'whole' time.
Frankly surprised that this lawless administration is forcing the company to pay.
The company's retort would be "Yeah, how much eating and bathing are they doing in INDIA?"
Yep because the crony communist/fascist billion dollar marxist Bill Gates and his corrupt buddies lobbied congress to make it so (by lying that there were not enough skilled workers domestically). A man with $33billion in the worth can afford to pay market scale. He skims the profits for himself and depresses the wages of an entire industry (not just at his vile shop).
IF these companies were being made to pay an import duty on the million dollar code that is written abroad, the million dollar contract work that is being outsourced, the million dollar prepared tax forms that are being produced overseas, the million dollar ad circulars that are being drafted overseas, etc. then there might be some protection for the local labor. As it stands they smuggle it in without paying import duty through the internet. But it was manufactured overseas all the same.
Nah, it has nothing to do with Gates or how many ‘skilled workers’ we have or don’t have.
With a computer connection a lot of jobs cannot be contained within the USA. Any job where the final product can be transmitted by electronically is at risk.
That is virtually all design, imaging, back-up research, bookkeeping, etc. Hundreds of millions of cubicle jobs, gone and not coming back unless at the rate of pay.
Not Gates’ fault though unless you want to give him all the credit for fast computing and the internet.
Similar thing happened to long distance messengers when the telegraph and telephone where invented.
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