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The EPA Is Getting Ready To Regulate Americans’ Wood Stoves Forcing Them To Buy New Ones
Right Wing News ^ | 06 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 02/07/2015 6:36:42 AM PST by xzins

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To: snowtigger

I meant you will get CO2 buildup in the house.


141 posted on 02/08/2015 6:13:32 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: snowtigger

The problem with most houses, even New ones, is they are not built to be passive solar. They do not have deep enough overhangs on the south and west side of the house to block the sun coming in during the summer. These overhangs would allow the sun to come on in during the winter when the sun is lower on the horizon. Passive solar also requires more thought out window orientation. Up here in New England that means you do not put big picture Windows on the north or east side of the house. This is why almost ALL ski areas in New England face north or east. If they face south or west the snow MELTS and runs down the hill.

My daughter’s house has an airlock between the main entrance door and the house. I mean it has a little mud room with a tile floor about 6x6. It has another exterior insulated door between it and the house. It has lockers built into one wall to store your coats, gloves, hats,etc. The other wall has a double shelf for boots and assorted footwear. That wall is lined with hooks for coats.


142 posted on 02/08/2015 6:34:40 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: OneWingedShark

I agree with you that they are uncomfortable with the concept of accountability and find it easier to allow excesses than to fight against them. However...there is undoubtedly a steady and increasing erosion of congressional power caused not only by agency dictates, but also by the increasing reach of executive orders, presidential memos, and frequent “adjustments” to laws (e.g., constant changes to Obamacare). Laws were not intended to be open-ended and infinitely modifiable to suit the political convenience of one party.

There is so little regard for congress’ authority that agency bureaucrats routinely have no qualms about lying to it. So what’s the point of having a congress if its not going to do its job? Why bother voting? They clearly don’t want the responsibility.


143 posted on 02/08/2015 6:57:15 AM PST by Starboard
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To: woodbutcher1963

The back of our house faces south and it has a lot of windows. We strategically planted deciduous trees that help to shade the home in summer yet allow a lot of sunlight through in the winter. The west side of the house has only one window. The insulation is nothing special but we have very low utility bills.

The only downside for us is the leaves in fall. :)


144 posted on 02/08/2015 7:06:06 AM PST by Starboard
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To: woodbutcher1963
Four wood stoves! How big is your house?

The house is somewhat large and I have stoves in different zones. Two are Aspens with one in the greenhouse and the other in the master. I really don't fire up the greenhouse stove unless we go subzero and in late March when I begin to layout the seed trays.

The stove in the master is more for prepping and hot water if we lose utilities. Both stoves burn well at about 28K Btus. I have found that if I do a slow burn up, load and damper, the stoves radiate for eight hours without additional fuel.

I use a Dutchwest (medium) in the great room. That will heat the house pretty much down to 10. I did a 14 foot stack of enameled pipe to a vaulted ceiling, outside air intake and squeezed out substantially more than the 85% listed efficiency. The Dutchwest is my favorite and leaves a white powdered ash after the burn. It is catalytic, however the EPA has approved the newer models without. The manual claimed the catalyst was not a "source" of heat, but that area above is great for boiling water. YMMV. The stove can be burned with or without the catalyst.

The final stove is in the kitchen and family room combo. There was originally a heatilator (very inefficient) fireplace there. We installed a Regency insert. The insert is more of a wood furnace (steel and fire bricks) in my opinion than a stove. It does 65K BTUs max output. We inserted a double wall 6" inside of a double wall 10". We generally use that stove for primary heating and get good convection up the two story entrance to the bedrooms. Most of the time my family members would just close the doors to the bedrooms because it was too hot.

My current gripe with the EPA is over the chimney caps. We are in one of the main migration paths of stink bugs. We managed to seal up the home everywhere except the caps. The EPA will not permit the proposed cap replacements to keep the stink bugs out (at least the last time I checked two years ago). Those things swarm in the fall and I have to keep the shopvacs out for two weeks. I can't describe the nightmare of the bug collection between the inserted Regency pipes. Ugly. One thing I learned is stink bugs seemed to be attracted to the infrared spectrum. We replaced all the spots from toxic bulbs to LEDs. That really cut out the bug attraction (not just stink bugs).

My wood storage was a stubborn response to local codes. I took all of our old walkway pavers for the floor on top of a gravel base. The permitting process required numerous regulations for a permanent structure, so I made the entire 10X20 structure out of large bolts, painted pressure treated 4X4 posts and 3 foot post-ups. The structure is now considered "temporary." It can be dismantled and moved in one weekend with air tools. The roof is pressure treated lattice and a 16X24' tarp. It matches the house and barn. I was very ticked off. I pitched mine at 15 degrees which has worked well. I stack it very high in the center and not the standard chord 4 feet. I mostly drop trees in the fall and spring. They are stacked and covered in place till I bring them down from the upper back 5 for splitting.

The 3.5 chord is the maximum estimated required to burn for a bad winter without sun. I am getting there this year.
145 posted on 02/08/2015 12:27:26 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: woodbutcher1963
My daughter’s house has an airlock between the main entrance door and the house

Up here those "airlocks" are pretty standard. We call them "Arctic Entries".

146 posted on 02/08/2015 1:13:54 PM PST by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit.)
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To: PA Engineer

My former neighbor had the large Consolidated Dutchwest stove. His was probably the early 80’s version. I can not remember if it was a cat stove. I remember really liking the side loader because he could get pieces in there almost 2’ long.

My in laws have been using a red enameled Catalytic Vermont Castings Acclaim since the early 80’s. It is a model from back when VC was making the best stoves. His Cat is in the back so it is kind of hard to clean. It is a top loader. Probably one of the prettiest stoves ever made. The enamel finish still looks great after 30 years.

That is the major issue I had with my Jotul. It had the cream color enamel. After a few years it started chipping off. By the time it was 15 years old(when I sold the house) it looked like crap. It needed to be sand blasted and repainted. It still worked just fine. Plus my son knocked over the fake Christmas tree once. So it had a burnt on pine needle look to it. HE also got a little too close with his down coat one time. Therefore, there was a little burn on nylon in spots.

I never worry about building small buildings on my property. I built a 12x16 barn on the last property and never pulled a permit. I rebuilt an in ground swimming pool and never pulled a permit. The town I live in now has a population of about 2500. The building inspector works part time. His office hours are Mondays 5-8pm. He is a finish carpenter fulltime by trade.

I don’t worry too much about the local govt. The only problem is IF you have a nosey neighbor. The last guy with the aforementioned Dutchwest stove was the head of the conservation commission. However, he was also a retired electrical engineer from the local utility company. The only thing he did not like were ATVs and snowmobiles. He was a big cross country skier and said they messed up the trails and went too fast.

Now my closest neighbor’s house is 500 feet away. I have 12 acres. He has 5. He has four horses. We have half dozen beagles. When I logged my property two falls ago, I purposely left most of the timber between the two houses sight line. Privacy makes good neighbors. Although, sometimes my dogs back at his horses when they are running around in their pasture.

My next outdoor project will be to build a medium sized barn on this property. I am thinking a pole barn approximately 16 x 24. I need something that would be big enough to park a 30hp Kubota or John Deere tractor(my next potential machine). Also, something large enough to also park the snow blower, 15HP John Deere tractor, spreader, outdoor furniture, wood chipper and enough room to have my Alpiner Box stove. I used to make maple syrup at the old house. I had two SS pans that fit onto this stove. It is one of those steel stoves the EPA wants to get rid of. When I am making syrup, I am throwing wood in there about once an hour.

We get stink bugs up here but not nearly in the quantity you do. Never knew they migrated like that.

Nice conversing with you.
Jim


147 posted on 02/09/2015 6:27:59 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: x1stcav

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn

“How is that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find the strength to rise up and free themselves, first in spirit and then in body; while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly lose the taste for freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery”. Alexander Solzhenitsyn.


148 posted on 02/09/2015 6:37:43 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

Amen.

One of my favorite passages.


149 posted on 02/09/2015 4:06:36 PM PST by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her acute pain?)
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