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The EPA Is Getting Ready To Regulate Americans’ Wood Stoves Forcing Them To Buy New Ones
Right Wing News ^ | 06 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 02/07/2015 6:36:42 AM PST by xzins

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To: xzins
Another fob to the oil and gas business at the expense of rural America. This business with wood stoves has been going on for thirty years.

What goes unmentioned is that government forest management has been a total disaster. Much of the wood burns in forest fires anyway with far greater emissions than a stove. We actually need economic uses for wood to fund forest management.

61 posted on 02/07/2015 7:51:12 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: bert

See my post #56.


62 posted on 02/07/2015 7:51:36 AM PST by sheana
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To: xzins

only costing $45.7 million per year

Those tax payers can always make do with less. We in the Govt however always need more.

This is to help save more low income people? Don’t low income people live in the cities, in poor areas, where there are few wood burning stoves? A wood stove isn’t really a cost effective option where you can’t chop down your own wood.


63 posted on 02/07/2015 7:52:13 AM PST by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

the peasantry where I live are all armed and for many their primary source of meat is fish and game.


64 posted on 02/07/2015 7:52:14 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Now you’re talking! Repeal, baby, repeal. :)


65 posted on 02/07/2015 7:54:12 AM PST by Starboard
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To: xzins

We now live in an era when the new things we buy are worse than the old. My brand new home with low flow showerhead and low flow toilet don’t work as well as the older flush toilet and showerhead. My new dishwasher is a weak shadow of the 10 year old one it replaced. Only my washer seems to work better, but that is because I replaced a top with a front loader. Newer top loaders do not do a good job, according to Consumer Reports. And don’t get me started on light bulbs.


66 posted on 02/07/2015 7:54:53 AM PST by sportutegrl (-)
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To: logic101.net

Where I’m at even a not so efficient wood stove is cheaper heat even if you buy your wood. With fuel oil over 3 a gallon this year and propane at about 2, both of the subject to extreme rise simply due to bad weather, there really is no comparison to a half cord of wood in a pickup truck for 50 or 60 bucks.


67 posted on 02/07/2015 7:55:48 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: sportutegrl

Do you call the hazmat team to remove the mercury when your ‘green’ low wattage twisty bulbs break? :>)


68 posted on 02/07/2015 7:57:54 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
"Do not we own our own property anymore?"

Once the Fedgov got it past SCOTUS that they could force people to buy something it's just a very small step to forcing folks to get rid of private property of any kind.

Liberals/Progressives are patient. They use baby steps to get their agenda to be canonized.

69 posted on 02/07/2015 7:59:23 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: xzins

You have a point, I wasn’t thinking of oil heat. However pretty much all the inner city buildings have been converted to gas.


70 posted on 02/07/2015 8:00:06 AM PST by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I’ve built quite a few wood stove and steel fireplaces in my life

You should check out building a wood gasifier. It can produce heat AND run a generator...which produces even more heat.

71 posted on 02/07/2015 8:02:46 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: xzins

California had smoke Nazis whose sole job was to drive around and look at chimneys. I imagine they still do.


72 posted on 02/07/2015 8:21:29 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: spokeshave

Use spray foam in that double wall and even sound is muffled. I was surprised by a simple 6” wall with the stuff deadening street noise such that not even construction noise across the street was heard.


73 posted on 02/07/2015 8:25:03 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Organic Panic

My last assignment in Germany they had instituted a new law that you could only warm your car up for 2 minutes on a cold morning.

I actually had people knock on my door to complain about my car running on a cold day.

Hard to believe that Americans are more like Europeans every day.....can’t walk on the grass, but offing an entire race is just fine.


74 posted on 02/07/2015 8:25:56 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: CodeToad

Yeah....I put a 2 inch foam layer on the roof prior to installing new tiles....sure deadened the sound...warmer in winter and cooler in summer....even were able to get rid of the A/C ...I guess also because the world is slowly cooling.


75 posted on 02/07/2015 8:27:56 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: logic101.net

You’re right. It’s a whole lot different out here in the countryside. I have my own trees....lots of them. No other energy source can compete with free (plus my labor, of course.)


76 posted on 02/07/2015 8:29:07 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Hardy?


77 posted on 02/07/2015 8:30:26 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat

Central Boiler Classic


78 posted on 02/07/2015 8:37:11 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

ah, OK. These are pretty cool products. Saves me a ton on my electric bill. And the family likes the unlimited hot water.

And they do give off a better heat too.


79 posted on 02/07/2015 8:51:12 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: xzins

“Has the government ever before said that it will force people owning old cars to get rid of those cars?”

Yep. If your car does not pass smog and it is not repairable, it goes.

THey did it with trucks in CA. Any commercial vehicle in CA must have a 2010 or new engine or be retro fitted with a $18000 pollution device by 1 Jan 2015 or it goes. I think by some future date there are to be no old trucks on the road. I think eventually they will extend this to cars.


80 posted on 02/07/2015 8:57:48 AM PST by rey
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