Rumsfeld: ‘Unrealistic’ for Bush to pursue democracy in Iraq

FoxNews ^ | June 9, 2015 | FoxNews

[lonestar67]

The refusal to publicly and properly honor the successes of US soldiers is at the heart of the global war against America’s enemies. The fact that you and the majority of opinion makers that range from Hillary to Rand Paul, get to describe American military actions as either failures or unreasonable is the problem.

In 2005, the new government of Iraq conducted three democratic elections including the referendum for a new constitution and election of major offers. All of the elections enjoyed higher voter participation in Iraq than any recent US election. The elected government had representatives from several major ethnic groups including Kurds and Shia.

Shinseki was wrong and was used relentlessly by the anti-war/pro genocide crowd to rationalize inaction in Iraq. I seriously would like this logic to be applied to all current military deployments globally. It would be suicide but lets give the neoisolationists their world.

How long would Souther Korea last once we pull out all 12,000 of our troops at the DMZ?

It is after all— too costly.

I want to see the world burn so we can prove the anti-war pro isolationist crowd right.

Please tell me honestly that once we have fully withdrawn from the world and saved all the money, the Arab world will not construct realistic military threats against us. They actually will only fight among themselves.

Is that true?

I know its not but I would like you to write that out for me.

Your post proves that democracy building worked. The Sunnis who supported us at that time have now joined ISIS after we withdrew from Iraq— a strategy that was supposed to pacify the Middle East and Arabs— not inflame them.

The founder of ISIS was actually in US custody in an Iraqi prison up until 2009. We released him because its unrealistic to impose democracy on Arab countries like Iraq.

There should be no serious question that the anti-war/ pro genocide/ neo isolationist movement created ISIS.

And yet it never matters, no matter what it is always traceable to some absurd narrative of American force. Its never the fault of pacifism or isolationism.

And yet the empirical reality of war is brilliantly successful.

I really wish we could establish some situation whereby the isolationists could be wrong. we need to withdraw and disarm to such an extent that neoisolationist are thoroughly disproven. I am not sure what that condition is but it should be pursued.

Once that political wing admits defeat, American soldiers will be allowed to win and claim credit for their effective results.

They did great work in Iraq and the demonization of their efforts are the primary driver to ISIS and current difficulties.