Ted Cruz's colleagues don't like him. Do voters?

CBS News ^ | December 25, 2015 | Alan He

[Isara]

You know that working as U.S. President in one of the three branches of the Federal government is not like working in private sectors, right? We have the U.S. Constitution to follow.

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[Aria]

I don’t think anyone on FR has missed that chart. LOL

Yes, unfortunately working in the fed government is not like working in the private sector...and this is one of the big problems. And yes, we need to follow the constitution but it doesn’t require the current ridiculous labrynith of agencies, budgets, and the ever popular always talked about but never fixed waste fraud and abuse. There are a bunch of lying scheming greedy bastards in our government who need to see an end to their gravy train.

Practically all of Congress and the POTUS would have been fired long ago if they had been in private business.

[FourPeas]

Great chart. Thanks!

[Isara]

Maybe you never had a chance to click the chart and found this.

Trump supported TARP, auto bailout and Porkulus bill, i.e., Trump is for big government and big businesses.

And, of course, he is for Renewable Fuel Standard (ethanol mandate), so governement can pick winners and losers.

Trump's Record on Free-market Issue: (from the Conservative Review)

Trump has a terrible record on free market issues. The only bright spot is the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing, but this glimmer is countermanded by his repeated support for bailing out Wall Street and the auto industry, and increased stimulus spending. Of particular concern is Trump's belief that the government can use eminent domain powers to seize private property in the name of private economic development. This comes as no surprise, given his support for using eminent domain to profit his own company.

Trump supported the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision in Kelo v. City of London, allowing public authorities to seize private land for economic development by private investors; Trump said, “I happen to agree with [the decision] 100 percent.” (National Review)  This is no surprise given Trump’s attempt to use eminent domain in his own line of work. (Institute for Justice)

Trump supported President Obama’s 2009 stimulus, saying: “The word stimulus is probably not used in its fullest…you know, certain of the things that were given weren't really stimulus. They were pork, as we call it, or they were gifts to certain people. But overall, I think he's [President Obama] doing very well. You do need stimulus and you do have to keep the banks alive.” (CNN) 

Trump supported TARP, saying, "You had to do something to shore up the banks, because ... you would have had a run on every bank." (CNN) 

Trump supported the 2008 auto bailout, saying, “I think the government should stand behind them 100 percent. You cannot lose the auto companies. They’re great. They make wonderful products.” He also said that the federal government could “easily save the companies.” (Daily Caller) 

Trump criticized the Federal Reserve’s intervention in the debt market, saying quantitative easing creates “phony numbers” that mislead the marketplace and “will not ultimately benefit the economy. The dollar will go down in value and inflation will start rearing its ugly head.” (CNBC) 

Donald Trump has a history of using eminent domain to complete business deals. Multiple times Trump has supported the use of government agencies to take possession of homes and businesses for use in his private business plans. Eminent domain seizures are reserved only for public use of property rather than abuse by the government taking property from one individual and giving to another. (Washington Post) 

Donald Trump has sought and received crony capitalist tax breaks for his commercial properties in New York. These tax breaks, and even an abatement, force the property taxes of other property owners to rise at the expense of the connected. Special treatment for one business or industry over another with the tax code conflicts with free market principles. (National Review) 

In 2009, Trump supported Barack Obama's call for limits on the pay of executives. (CNN)

[Aria]

Thanks for sending this...I will read later today.

But right now I think Cruz has an excellent resume for Attorney General and maybe Jeff Sessions should be VP in the first term and Cruz VP for the second term. Cruz would have deep experience at that point.

[CatherineofAragon]

"If this has been debunked then I’d like to know about it. Another poster on this thread said he regrets his arrogant behavior in college."

No, I didn't. I cited his mention of his state of mind when he GOT to college---a typical cocky high-school kid, going into the Ivy Leagues.

Wasn't long before that changed, and I seriously doubt Cruz goes around today "regretting" teenaged behavior, as you try to mischaracterize.

Regardless, THAT'S what you want to focus on regarding Cruz? If it is, you might be better off looking at the liberal sleaze you support.

When Cruz was in high school, he was traveling all over the state of Texas, giving lectures on the Constitution. Has Trump ever MENTIONED our founding documents?

I did see one of his fans here say, "Well, but he knows the Constutiton exists." LOL!

But yeah...we're going to obsess over arrogance from a teenager more than a quarter of a century ago instead of the arrogance of your bloviating gasbag hero.

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In fact, I'll wager millions upon millions despise Ted Cruz's corrupt, duplicitous and immoral dirtbag colleagues at least as much and even more than I do on any given day!

Careful. Not everybody who feels that way about Congress is going to make an exception for Ted Cruz. For a lot of people out there, Ted has more in common with his colleagues than with themselves.

[CatherineofAragon]

I think you better look up the definition of the word. Citing something from Cruz’s book doesn’t qualify.

On the other hand, the hysteria and the keening and the hymn singing to that liberal Manhattanite varies from slobber into outright worship. You’re right in there with your talk of obsessively watching Trump’s every TV appearance to admitting you’re “addicted” to him.

Not healthy. Not at all.

Yeah, you make it well known these days that you have no use for Cruz. But, like quite a few of you Trump fans, your views concerning Trump and/or Cruz have done an amazing 180 over time:

To: ScubieNuc

While I figured we’ll all be called hypocrites for supporting Cruz should he decide to run, I have to remember what it will take to save this country and he seems to be one hell of a guy. I think he could do it...he is that strong and even James Carville has acknowledged his huge talent.

21 posted on 8/20/2013, 12:43:41 AM by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren’t elections - they were coup d’etats.)
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To: Hostage

OK..I get that. Cruz is definitely genuine - not beholden to the finger in the wind.

Thanks!

13 posted on 2/21/2014, 3:36:55 AM by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren’t elections - they were coup d’etats.)
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I kind of think your mention of “finger in the wind” is ironic. Like I said, looking at old Trump/Cruz threads is very illuminating; it hardly seems credible that so many people could have flipped so completely.

It leads me to wonder how many of you Trump fans really support him when you log off FR, and how many of you pretend it because you’re afraid to buck what you see as the forum trend...you think it’s better for you to go along.

I got over that kind of crap in junior high, myself. I’m sticking with the Constitutional conservative. Under no circumstances will I abandon my principles to support that liberal reality TV celebrity.

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Been reading about him. Apparently in college he only wanted to hang out with people whose IQ he thought was high enough.

Maybe, maybe not. I was a little suspicious of that quote.

1) It sounds a little too specific -- the idea that Ted would only study with people from Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, not Brown or Penn.

2) It sounds a little like a joke.

3) That way of thinking may be common enough at Harvard Law. Maybe everybody is like that there.

4) His roommate, who was in the study group, didn't go to an Ivy League school and says the story was not true.

[Isara]

We have to agree to disagree. My priority is the U.S. Constitution for all Americans, not cronyism for Fortune 500 companies.

[Aria]

Hey, I liked Cruz but I like Trump better. I may change my mind again between the two...that’s what this process is all about.

You’re getting awfully personal with your criticism. Not good.

[CatherineofAragon]

Personal how” By looking at your posting history?

Too bad, it’s there.

Don’t think you’re going to come onto a Cruz thread trying to smear him and get hugs in return. If you dish it, you’ll get it back. Try to take it without whining.

[Aria]

I didn’t mean looking at my posting history...

Who is whining...not me. I guess I could go back and forth with you but I’m not going to do it. “not healthy”.

[CottonBall]

That silly polka-dot graph you post constantly is ridiculous. For example, Trump’s 2A policy is better than any other candidate, with his national concealed carry idea.

And that you say to contact some outside group if we do not like the ratings is you just trying to deflect responsibility that YOU are posting this simplistic hogwash over and over.

I am going to post this comment every time I see your silly polka dots! (The fact that I have also mastered cutting and pasting is hardly impressive, is it, LOL)

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