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US must apologize over marines entrance to Iran waters ("American military in Gulf never innocent")
MNA ^ | Jan. 13

Posted on 01/13/2016 1:36:50 AM PST by Dave346

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To: Cvengr
They are not Marines. I read the same thing from a China news source and it was translated wrong.

Not high and tight...

21 posted on 01/13/2016 8:46:09 AM PST by huldah1776
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I didn’t have a high and tight when I was in the Corps but you’re right. These are very likely sailors. Still wondering why there’s a man there in a flight suit.

I haven’t asked around and I won’t for a while.


22 posted on 01/13/2016 9:18:57 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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This is Obama’s “Carter” moment. Carter ok’d the failed mission to rescue the hostages, now Obama is president when our military is taken hostage by people from the same nation, Iran.


23 posted on 01/13/2016 2:59:30 PM PST by ducttape45 (Obama's legacy - Christianity outlawed, America shamed, morality destroyed. Need I say more?)
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Savage was on a tear tonight. He pointed out that there’s no way both boats lost their engines at the same time. He said either the Iranians used an EMP to disable the boats or the “mother ship” sabotaged them. I don’t doubt either one but I’d bet on the “mother ship”.


24 posted on 01/13/2016 8:40:54 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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It’s not a flight suit, it’s coveralls. Not unusual.


25 posted on 01/13/2016 10:26:00 PM PST by piasa
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Ok that makes more sense. They flashed the image on the news so fast my initial reaction was flight suit. As far as the cammo goes the Navy mostly is in those terrible blue ones so the ones the crews were wearing appear to me to be the newest Marine corps pattern.


26 posted on 01/14/2016 4:17:27 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (I think Hillary looks tired, don't you?)
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Here is what REALLY happened!

The comment by Matt Bracken on the linked article at the bottom:

“I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat’s icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats “strayed into Iranian waters” is complete bull$#it.

For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation’s claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that’s why two boats go on these trips and not one! It’s called “self-rescue” and it’s SOP.

This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a “hands up!” situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America’s face.

Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.

The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/10_us_sailors_held_by_iran_confirmed_freed.html


27 posted on 01/18/2016 2:21:08 PM PST by 2harddrive
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