Posted on 02/17/2016 4:20:38 AM PST by John W
I don’t see the problem in this case, aren’t the Perps already dead?
Cook is correct.
Anyone who thinks that the Feds would only use it on one phone is delusional
If that was possible they would have already done it
Apple should have quietly offered to help (or complied with a subpoena), put a few pointy heads on this, hopefully provided information, and then have been done with it.
I get Apple’s concern of enabling a backdoor to the device, and if I were an iPhone user would appreciate the knowing apps such as banking were as secure as possible. Apple however is failing to acknowledge that a terrorist organization declared war on America and we’re taking casualties. Lives lost just a few hours downstate - you would think that would resonate in some meaningful way with Apple.
IMO, Apple’s failure to cooperate is a concise declaration of their unwillingness to stand with America against terrorism.
Exactly. Fourteen people are dead. There’s an obstruction of justice charge in there somewhere for this sanctimonious turd burglar. Feds come to him AFTER a crime has been committed, want him to provide access to his company’s product, and he refuses? He doesn’t have to show them how AAPL accesses the memory, but he does need to do provide the access.
Interesting to me that Cook opposes the violation of privacy here, but will at the same time heartily endorse the violation of beliefs for religious business owners who do not want to engage or work for the advancement of relationships that violate Scripture.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Give Apple the phone, let them break into the phone so the FBI has access to the data that was encrypted so they can do more research. If they are concerned about giving away company secrets/IP, they could probably print out the data then re-encrypt the phone.
I’m not a huge Apple fan but there is probably a mutually agreeable way for the FBI to get the info they need without Apple giving away their IP (I do understand the significance of that having worked in the IP industry for a number of years and more companies moving to encryption to avoid hackers being able to have access).
You are so wrong. If they give it to the FBI they must give it to China, Russia and Iran. This is crazy. And after Russia has it, how long til the Russian mob has it. And then everyone else.
What they are asking for is the ability for people to steal read your phone. And then to do it without even taking the phone from you.
When Apple sells a phone into a country that country insists that Apple gives them everything the US has. Cook is defending all of us and all those in other countries.
It’s been suggested just open it for them, don’t “give” them anything.
NO !! WRONG !!
The atrocity is letting these subhumans into the US in the first place. Keep them out of our country and we don't need to give the government that caused the problem to begin with even more power to undermine we the people. "
“My understanding is that a Federal Judge has issued an Order to Apple to unlock that phone. My understanding of the constitutional requirements is that a search order signed by a Judge is a constitutionally valid order.”
Then let the judge try to enforce it.
“This current flap is not about the government having easy access to all devices.”
The “backdoor” if it exists WOULD be used to grant the government easy access to all devices if Apple complies with this order. If you believe otherwise, you are not skeptical enough of your government.
If Apple stands firm and the government continues to whine about not being able to break this encryption, that will do more to boost their sales than anything else they can do.
The time to stop terror is before terrorists kill people. We see it time and again - Boston, this event, that the government had all the information they needed to intervene and stop the killing of Americans but did not. Nobody has been held accountable for that.
This current flap is about preventing effective encryption from being employed by regular Americans, so that the government can spy on them for whatever reason they want to. It is also about spying for bureaucratic (or more nefarious) advantage.
They are not going to quietly offer to help. Firstly, the government is asking for more than help. They want hacking software to be written for them. And its not just to let them in. Its to make it easier and faster access. Also, this is just one prosecutor. There are tens of thousands more. Where does it stop. They want a law. Or a real court to watch over this. Not some little California judge.
thanks. that was my question exactly.
seems to me to be a reasonable solution.
apple should open up these two phones, give the government the data from these two phones and keep the way through the backdoor to themselves.
“It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America. “
I’m not buying it.
Apple knows the Fraud took over GM with no real opposition.
Hussein SPONSORS and protects muslim terrorists.
A phone call from ValJar could have easily convinced Apple to take this “patriotic” stance and further the Fraud’s mission against America.
Follow Cook’s position and you give every terrorist and criminal on earth a secure communications network.
There should be a system where a court order can require Apple to decrypt communications for due cause, just as with phone companies and wire taps. Apple should not be required to disclose anything about their encryption.
“It establishes a bad precedent. Government abuse of bad precedent is a daily occurrence. Some federal agencies’ whole existence is an abuse of bad precedent. There’s nothing ‘far fetched’ about it.”
Why do you believe THIS Big Media story as written?
Bet the Fraud’s handlers wrote/edited/approved this message to protect the Fraud’s beloved muslim terrorists.
The NSA spies on their enemies, not our enemies.
If the government can’t hack into my IOS devices, I am glad I switched from Android. No matter what you say about terrorists, TimCook, or Apple, I don’t want the government snooping around in MY personal information looking around for someone they don’t know who. If the have a duly authorized warrant with specifics, then maybe, after I’ve had a chance to read it and consult my attorney.
Agreed. There is no way that Apple should install backdoors and then give access to our corrupt government.
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