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March 1980: When the Establishment Believed Ronald Reagan Would Lead the GOP to Certain Defeat
Breitbart.com ^ | 18 Mar 2016 | James S. Robbins

Posted on 03/19/2016 9:58:11 AM PDT by Rockitz

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41 posted on 03/19/2016 12:32:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: chimera

Well Trump could help his own cause a little. I’m listening to him live at the Arizona rally. He said his daughter and wife told him to start acting and sounding presidential. Not one minute later he’s going after “Little Marco,” and “Lying Ted,” and then he goes after Jeb Bush saying he’s not a real Conservative. What is wrong with this guy? Does he not realize he’s going to need the supporters of these guys? Does he not realize how much these insults hurt himself? Is he too old or too vain to learn? What is with this guy?


42 posted on 03/19/2016 12:32:48 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: R_Kangel

“Mr. Reagan had already worked within the Government and knew most of the ins and outs and limitations of governmental procedure as well as the checks and balances built into the constitution”

You think Trump and his people are incapable of understanding checks and balances. Where is your support for that?

Reagan was Governor of California from 1966 to 1974. He had been out of government for 6 years in 1980. Reagan had no experience whatsoever in the Federal government. This is something the Democrats often repeated. Reagan was described as a B movie actor and a “dunce.”

Trump is prepared to be president.


43 posted on 03/19/2016 12:36:45 PM PDT by detective
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To: Rockitz
Hear! Hear!

But never; never underestimate the arrogant stupidity of those who pursue agendas not based upon reality. Their pursuits ultimately destroy their ability to reason, even outside of their initial irrational pursuits.

Anyone who cannot understand that the appeal of Trump is based upon principled Americans' waking up; that the power being unleashed will grow rather than fade, if we who understand it will but continue to actively embrace it; anyone who cannot understand that power, is not likely to predict the outcome.

One of the clearest points that the Trump haters--those with little principles often hate those they do not understand--is that Donald Trump is a natural Conservative. (See Trump: Metaphor For American Conservatism.)

And if the less principled in the so-called Republican Establishment hate Trump in their embarrassment at being exposed as vacuous, we can amuse ourselves with laughing over how the comparable fawning toadies must have hated the little boy, who exposed their absurd posturing, when he proclaimed the nakedness of the Emperor.

44 posted on 03/19/2016 12:40:21 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

For some reason the cause of Nationalism got decoupled from Conservatism.

Nationalism is the essence of Conservatism, and Trump is bringing it back.


45 posted on 03/19/2016 12:41:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Beernoser

Well, I agree that Trump would do better to be somewhat more substantive on policy issues and ease off the political attacks. In reality those should be reserved for Hillary/Bernie, who are the real enemies to defeat. He has on occasion called for unity but then switches into attack mode and that seems to sow disunity among those who would otherwise be disposed to at least consider supporting him. If he is the nominee, and I think that is likely, he will have to understand that to win a national election you need a broader base of support than you get just going after members of your own party. Maybe he’ll change to that once he secures the nomination, but that means a lot of lost time. Hillary and Bernie aren’t going to be wasting theirs.


46 posted on 03/19/2016 12:42:28 PM PDT by chimera
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To: All

The Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is strong here.


47 posted on 03/19/2016 12:45:23 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: chimera
“A lot of people swore to the heavens they hated Kennedy because he was Catholic and would be beholden to the Pope.”

Almost no one said that publicly in 1960. The Nixon campaign never brought up the issue of religion. Many of the people in the Nixon campaign were devout Catholics. Nixon won the endorsement of several prominent Catholics.

The Kennedy campaign brought up the issue of anti-Catholic prejudice. The media then repeated it. The Democrats had done a study that showed the party could not win because in the 1950’s Catholics were rejecting the Democrat message. The party concluded they must nominate a Catholic and exploit the Catholic issue.

Sam Rayburn said to Lyndon Johnson, “If we have to have a Catholic, why can't we nominate someone like John McCormick instead of that little pissant Kennedy.”

48 posted on 03/19/2016 12:45:47 PM PDT by detective
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To: dfwgator
Nationalism is indeed fundamentally Conservative. The deliberate decoupling reflects the success of the compulsion driven collectivist egalitarian attack on the reality in general. Egalitarianism postulates the potential equality--even the virtual interchangeability of people & peoples. Thus the radical change in our immigration policy in 1965.

This coupled with the play to greedy business interests, to sacrifice the home interests for international profits, has led to what you recognize. (It has become politically correct for business to embrace the lunacy that underpinned every Leftist revolution of the past 227 years, since the Jacobins in France.)

49 posted on 03/19/2016 12:50:29 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: detective

.... I was just pointing out a few differences between two very different people.


50 posted on 03/19/2016 12:56:39 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: R_Kangel

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush,” Romney said. “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”


51 posted on 03/19/2016 1:00:31 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: texas_mrs

Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

Nether is Cruz

But Trump is attack by the the same forces with the same tactics in the same words and the same old lies as Reagan.......

For all the Cruz supprter that attack Trump.....

Reagan was an ex liberal FDR Democrat...

Reagan was our first and only divorced and remarried president

Reagan was dismissed as just a lightweight Entertainer Showman that only appealed to the uninformed and uneducated rubes

Reagan play tough with his enemy.... and did shoot from the hip... “I paid for this microphone!” “today I signed legislation baning, Russia the bombing begins in 5 minutes” Reagan is the one that call the Soviet Union “the evil empire”

Reagan was a pro American nationalist... remember him taking on Bill Buckley (the father of conservatism and NR) in the debate over giving the Panama Canal away

And Reagan beat “a wear it on his sleeve” born again Christian “intellectual” Jimmy Carter to become president

neither Trump nor Cruz is Reagan

but Trump sure gets attacked like Reagan with the same falsehoods, for the same suppose amoral unchristian life, the same lightweight Entertainer, and for the same hot head that does “not playing nice”


52 posted on 03/19/2016 1:09:01 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: detective

My evidence of Mr. Trump not understanding checks and balances are

1. Saying he would order the armed forces to commit war crimes and they’d do it because he ordered them to.

2. Saying if the Speaker of the House didn’t get along with him, he’d have to be punished.


53 posted on 03/19/2016 1:24:33 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: Rockitz

Trump’s going to win California like Reagan?

Trump’s going to win New York like Reagan?

Of course he isn’t because 1980 America no longer exists. There are far fewer white voters today, and whites are the only real “swing voters”. Any GOP path to 270 EV is narrow. A GOP landslide is impossible. Please stop with the 1980 Reagan comparisons. You may as well talk about a come-from-behind victory in Uruguay or Estonia because you’re talking about a different country than 2016 USA.


54 posted on 03/19/2016 1:24:49 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: Rockitz

Remember also this was before the “Desert One” debacle that helped focus on how utterly incompetent the incumbent was.


55 posted on 03/19/2016 1:31:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Reagan challenged Nixon in the 1968 Republican primaries. Reagan challenged Ford in the 1976 primaries.

Trump has never challenged anyone in a Republican primary before these, and in fact, Trump has still never voted in a Republican presidential primary in his life.


56 posted on 03/19/2016 1:33:17 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: Beernoser

Saying he would order the armed forces to commit war crimes and they’d do it because he ordered them to..How did he say that? It’s not a war crime unless terrorists have been written into the Geneva Convention.


57 posted on 03/19/2016 1:40:12 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Targeting family members of terrorists for killing is a war crime. Do you not remember the debate where this topic came up? From AP, March 4.

“WASHINGTON — Donald Trump retreated Friday from his promise that if elected president he would order the military to kill family members of militants who threaten the United States.

Trump’s campaign issued a statement quoting him as saying he would not order the military to take actions contrary to international or U.S. law.

But fewer than 24 hours earlier, in Thursday’s GOP debate, Trump stuck to his position on targeting family members of militants and on an expansive use of torture against captured militants. When a debate moderator asked him what he would do if the military refused to carry out such orders, Trump replied: “They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me.” “

I repeat that Donald Trump shows little understanding of the checks and balances of our Republican form of government.

I don’t know what people see in him. Obviously there’s something there but I don’t see it.


58 posted on 03/19/2016 1:49:27 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: JPJones
When the general election is over, Trump will be sitting in the White House and Hillary will be sitting in a padded room curled up in the fetal position.

From your lips to God's ears, brother.

And I want it to mean something, too. I want to see the gates of Leavenworth Penitentiary gape wide, wide, to receive Hillary's goatfooted mate, for rape and treason, official corruption, and the death of Vince Foster. I want him to spend the rest of his days with narcotics charges, perjury charges, Wen Ho Lee, and bayou bodies hanging around his neck.

"Dan Lasater's deal" my ass. It was Goatboy's deal, and he owes us federal time.

59 posted on 03/19/2016 1:51:20 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Timmy

Try reading the article next time.


60 posted on 03/19/2016 1:51:51 PM PDT by digger48
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