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Fmr Presidential Adviser (Erlichman) Confesses: Nixon Invented Drug War to Decimate Hippies
Reason.org ^ | |Mar. 22, 2016 5:15 pm | Robby Soave

Posted on 03/22/2016 4:28:55 PM PDT by drewh

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To: Delta 21

I would say here, judging from the amount of homeless druggies on the street, it’s closer to 25%.


41 posted on 03/22/2016 4:53:23 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Senator Goldwater

Yet he governed as a Republican liberal.


42 posted on 03/22/2016 4:54:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: drewh

“Wowwww maaan, like, far out! Heavy.”


43 posted on 03/22/2016 4:55:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Socialism and Anarchy are always the father and mother of their dreaded son, Fascism.)
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To: XEHRpa

Yes we made fun of Nancy at the time, but she really got through to many of us.


44 posted on 03/22/2016 4:55:36 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: dp0622
the war on drugs isn’t being fought right but it MUST be fought.

I think the first mistake is referring to it as a "war". A war is where one group of people kills another group of people and destroys their ability to resist. Who are we fighting against in this "war" on drugs? People who like to get high? So we're going to kill them and destroy their means to resist? Well, yes, that is exactly what it has evolved into: law enforcement killing drug users, raiding their homes, shooting their dogs, and destroying any and all means of resistance. The problem is that often drug users are regular people who still believe they are free to make their own choices. How did the War on Alcohol work out during Prohibition?

If FedGov wants to control the import of drugs into the US, that is within their constitutional purview, but telling Joe and Jane Smith that they are enemy combatants because they want to grow a pot plant in their backyard and smoke once in a while is an abomination in a free society.

Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign worked quite a bit because it focused on convincing people not to choose to use drugs, rather than to impose totalitarian restrictions on people's behaviors and treating grown men and women like children. This is how an anti-drug campaign should go - not a "war" against your own people, but a campaign to convince your people that drugs is a bad choice.
45 posted on 03/22/2016 5:00:44 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Delta 21
Looks a lot like the War on Poverty. Poverty Pimps, Drug War Pimps - whores walking different sides of the same street.


46 posted on 03/22/2016 5:04:07 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: GraceG

“The only way to “win” a war on drugs is to secretly intercept and deliberately poison the drugs with random poisons.”

I know. I have had the exact same thought many times. It wouldn’t be moral, however.


47 posted on 03/22/2016 5:06:06 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Absolutely true.


48 posted on 03/22/2016 5:06:38 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: drewh
Because there's no reason to be against drugs if you're not trying to eradicate hippies.
49 posted on 03/22/2016 5:07:03 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is not a well man.)
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To: dp0622

I think we ought to do like Saudi Arabia and execute drug dealers and drug distributors. How do you have a proper war without getting serious? But we don’t, and then we whine about the prisons getting full.


50 posted on 03/22/2016 5:09:10 PM PDT by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for thoughts. (Ophelia, from Hamlet))
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To: fr_freak

I agree the word war is wrong.

but I disagree that the sellers and users of heroin, crack and roxy shouldn’t be arrested.

It’s almost IMPOSSIBLE to afford an addiction without committing crime.

I’m not allowed to kill myself according to law. That law would have to be stricken too.

and pot, OBVIOUSLY, is WAY different than those other ones and even alcohol.

but the DEALERS of pot, they’re BRUTAL. I’ve seen beatdowns over pot corner ownership. Making pot legal has always made sense to me, if alcohol is going to be.


51 posted on 03/22/2016 5:10:55 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: drewh

The REAL question about the War on Drugs:

Why, in 1919, was an amendment to the Constitution needed to give the federal government power to regulate or prohibit a chemical?

Why has NO amendment to the Constitution been needed to give the Congress power to regulate or prohibit thousands of other chemicals?


52 posted on 03/22/2016 5:27:18 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: vladimir998

I think you are closer to the truth about the “War on Drugs”. The Left tried to make the concept of illegal drug use one of free choice. They never gave a damn about the cost in human lives lost in the drug production chain from Latin America and Asia to the inner cities and outer farms.

That same mentality is, today, responsible for the horrible rise in heroin use which is devastating liberal New England states like a mini-AIDS plague.

And I might add that Red China was behind much of the heroin/opium that flooded Europe, esp. Amsterdam, Hong Kong, Vietnam, and the western US/Canada through the port of Vancouver.

While in Taiwan in the summer of 1971 (as both a newspaper journalist and a special seminar student), I was able to interview Fu Shu Ren, one of Mao’s bodyguard’s during the swimming of the Yangtze River which appeared in Life magazine. (Ren was later a Red Guard activist but got sick of the internecine slaughter he saw taking place in eastern China and defected to Taiwan).

Ren had a special pass that allowed him to travel around Red China unhindered and in Yennan Province, he saw miles of fields of opium poppies growing, as well as visiting a plant that manufactured the very same type of box (long, rectangular) used to ship heroin to Hong Kong and Amsterdam.

I was shown police photos of those seizures and those bags matched those Ren saw.

However, he did not see the actual heroin/opium production facilities.

Meanwhile, due to something I helped uncover while interviewing a senior No. Vietnamese military defector, our intell guys found out about Hanoi’s shipping heroin by train from Red China down the west side of No. Vietnam to other points for shipping via other means (i.e, carried across the border into SVN or shipped in by boat).

One of our Navy jets on a routine patrol over NVN spotted a train and blew it to hell. Unbeknownst to the pilot, he had hit a heroin train. The NVA thought that this was a targeted kill and that the US knew about these trains. Reportedly they changed their shipment plans to use small boats going down their coast to their agents in SVN.

I was told, while in SVN in the Fall, 1970, that the heroin sold to our soldiers ran up to 90% pure, a purity that could only be reached by higher technological processing of the raw opium sap. The opium turned to heroin in the “Golden Triangle” (Laos, eastern Burma, possibly Thailand, but also boarding Red Chinese provinces) was of much less a purity, usually ranging from about 5%-15% or so because it was only refined once or twice before being sold and shipped out to Bangkok and SVN.

Red Chinese sailors and even ships have been seized during the 70’s in Europe and Hong Kong with heroin onboard.

The one war on drugs almost never covered by the US media was the one waged by the communists against American and western nations.

One journalist, Alfred McCoy, blamed all the heroin in SVN on its production by our Meo allies in Laos, but this was leftist BS. The Meo didn’t have the technology/supplies to supply a higher purity heroin like the No. Vietnamese and Red Chinese. Some of their heroin might have been smuggled into SVN by unscrupulous Americans, but the was never an American policy.

Just some thoughts from an old SVN/Cambodia journalist.


53 posted on 03/22/2016 5:27:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: gaijin

He’s confessing from the great beyond, conveniently enough for the typical garbage piece from Harper’s.


54 posted on 03/22/2016 5:28:52 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: drewh

FAIKL. They weren’t decimated. They became powerful democrats.


55 posted on 03/22/2016 5:28:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You doubt this? Why?


56 posted on 03/22/2016 5:31:45 PM PDT by zek157
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To: A_Former_Democrat

The WWI and WWI generations: generations that went and got themselves killed and maimed like lambs to the slaughter in two totally unnecessary wars.


57 posted on 03/22/2016 5:32:18 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Clintonfatigued
The War on Drugs was invented long before Nixon. He may have coined the phrase, but it was LBJ's War on Poverty and his generous subsidies of the drug and illegitimacy lifestyle which made the War on Drugs inevitable on the scale where it is today.

The start of the war dates back to the repeal of prohibition. You had a large force of enforcement officers, only some of whom could be employed in revenue collection or deployed against moonshiners and the like. In FDR's America, just as today, government workers were special and couldn't just be made redundant like the rest of us. So those who couldn't be employed in existing agencies such as BAFT or the IRS were employed against the fledgling narcotics industry.

The famous film Reefer Madness which many of us saw in the 1960s dated from this time. Some of us actually took that film seriously, but our younger siblings were laughing it out of classrooms all over America by the 1970s.

I'm curious as to how many Freepers remember it?

Long story short is that if any president is to be blamed for the War on Drugs, it would be FDR, with a major assist in expanding it to be credited to Lyndon Johnson.

58 posted on 03/22/2016 5:38:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: dp0622
Continue, but use different tactics along the lines of what Portugal did in 2001. Drug possession was decriminalized. Trafficking is still illegal. It freed up the court systems. Funding went into actual treatment instead of incarceration. Bottom line there are now fewer addicts running around living in the stereos. throwing addicts in jail has not been working and probably will never work.
59 posted on 03/22/2016 5:38:48 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Iron Munro

LOL! Did you ever nail it!


60 posted on 03/22/2016 5:40:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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