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Fmr Presidential Adviser (Erlichman) Confesses: Nixon Invented Drug War to Decimate Hippies
Reason.org ^ | |Mar. 22, 2016 5:15 pm | Robby Soave

Posted on 03/22/2016 4:28:55 PM PDT by drewh

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To: Delta 21

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/dea-drug-overdoses-kill-more-americans-car-crashes-or-firearms

Getting hooked these days is much more lethal...


61 posted on 03/22/2016 5:40:31 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman

I was all grown up in the 80s and living in Hawaii, where Operation Green Harvest turned all the young pot heads into meth heads. Big improvement /s


62 posted on 03/22/2016 5:41:50 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: dp0622

The war on drugs, gangs, and terrorism have much in common.


63 posted on 03/22/2016 5:42:42 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: fooman

You said it. Nancy’s message was direct and to the point: “Just Say No.”


64 posted on 03/22/2016 5:44:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: Chuckster

Pot is a gateway drug.

If it weren’t, then the drug use would have stopped.


65 posted on 03/22/2016 5:45:27 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Chuckster

Pot is a gateway drug.

If it weren’t, then the drug use would have stopped.


66 posted on 03/22/2016 5:45:47 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Delta 21

Great post. It is good to see someone post actual data as opposed to anecdotal nonsense about the drug war.


67 posted on 03/22/2016 5:48:01 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: dp0622
but the DEALERS of pot, they’re BRUTAL. I’ve seen beatdowns over pot corner ownership.

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with the pot. It is money. On the street (where pot is illegal) pot is money. All drugs are money. And making something people want illegal creates the black market that makes these things valuable. If contraband porcelaine figurines of Porky Pig were hot items, Porky Pig dealers would be fighting over street corners too.
68 posted on 03/22/2016 5:49:10 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: zek157

yeah, you’re right on the addicts themselves


69 posted on 03/22/2016 5:49:58 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

http://www.dea.gov/docs/2015%20NDTA%20Report.pdf

Drug deaths have been going up.


70 posted on 03/22/2016 5:50:02 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman
Pot is a gateway drug.

No, alcohol and tobacco are.

The only reason pot could be a gateway drug is the fact that people try it and then say "What the heck is the big deal? The government wants to put people in prison for owning this? For possessing the wrong plant which was created by God?

Armed with growing skepticism and distrust of government, people then try other, harder drugs, because of the experience they've had with government being so hysterically propagandist about marijuana.

Gateway drug, my dimpled ass.

The Tyrannical Prohibitionist Mind is indeed something to behold...

71 posted on 03/22/2016 5:51:26 PM PDT by sargon
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To: Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Forgive me for not taking a disgruntled old man’s “confession”, as recounted in a pro-drug magazine, as gospel.


72 posted on 03/22/2016 5:52:37 PM PDT by Impy (What planet is this?)
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To: sargon

Last poster just gave evidence it was.


73 posted on 03/22/2016 5:53:12 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fr_freak

they make porcelain figurines of Porky Pig?

of course, you’re right. I have to agree.

I still think roxy, heroin and crack have to be illegal to sell.

NEVER met a casual user of any of those three. And if they are, they aren’t for long.

Alcohol can be brutal, but Every one of my friends drank in their teens and twenties and cut down maybe 90 percent after that.

pot, whatever lol.

but the others, try something better than 1,000 orgasms and see how easy it is to EVER think of anything else.


74 posted on 03/22/2016 5:57:11 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: huldah1776

In Germany and Japan, we killed as many as we needed to kill, then we reeducated.

we obviously can’t kill drug users. so rehab is the best route, but from what I’ve seen, boy, the odds of it taking hold are low.

gangs, you’d have to change the entire black and Hispanic underculture, and that’s a disease of the country. I have NO IDEA what to do with that.

terrorism. KILL the terrorists. Just like NAZIs.

deport the group that sprouts them, muslims.

isolate the mid east and bring HELL to any country we can trace a terrorist act back to. That one person now represents their entire country. See if that helps


75 posted on 03/22/2016 6:01:18 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: dp0622

Mexican transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) remain the greatest criminal drug threat to the United
States; no other group can challenge them in the near term. These Mexican poly-drug organizations
traffic heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine, and marijuana throughout the United States, using established
transportation routes and distribution networks. They control drug trafficking across the Southwest
Border and are moving to expand their share of US illicit drug markets, particularly heroin markets.
National-level gangs and neighborhood gangs continue to form relationships with Mexican TCOs to
increase profits for the gangs through drug distribution and transportation, for the enforcement of drug
payments, and for protection of drug transportation corridors from use by rival gangs.

From chart two above. Seem like a lot of heroin and meth going on even as marijuana has been decriminalized.

Also notice the Mexican connection.


76 posted on 03/22/2016 6:06:12 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman

how the hell do you stop that without a full scale invasion of Mexico?

and all the other countries?

the kids out here got addicted to roxys and now that they are hard to get are addicted to heroin.

WT# are middle class ethnic white kids doing TAKING THIS STUFF!!

out of THIRTY of us, some did some coke. maybe 3. who could afford it? we got drunk a lot. Then grew up and stopped.

I know these roxys have helped people with pain but big pharma PROMISED it was only going to be used on cancer patients.

then bad backs.

then hangnails.

then after millions got addicted, they created suboxone to get people off the roxys, but suboxone is an partial antagonist, so it’s still an opiate.

I know, the addicts aren’t innocent. Big Pharma is guilty as hell too.

everyone here in their 40s and older can talk big now, but how about if we were 18 and handed something at the doctors like candy, which made you feel INCREDIBLE.

I can’t say I wouldn’t have gotten addicted.


77 posted on 03/22/2016 6:15:35 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: fooman

Dead potheads everywhere....


78 posted on 03/22/2016 6:16:27 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: dp0622

We can start by getting control of the border.

Trump and Cruz are both for it. And send back the ~600K illegal criminals that are here.


79 posted on 03/22/2016 6:29:51 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: dp0622

I am not trying to stir up debate here.

Just interesting that the drug problem has exploded and its relationship to the border issue.

And a government document admits the relationship!

Unreal!


80 posted on 03/22/2016 6:45:27 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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