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Now only Donald Trump has a viable path to 1.237 delegates
HERE ON FR | March 23, 2016 | Jeff Head

Posted on 03/23/2016 10:09:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head

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To: Jim 0216

Only the 14 and 3 delegates mentioned in your notes are pledged to the statewide winner. If Trump wins PA, only those 17 will be allocated. The other 54 will go to the convention completely unbound. In 1980, Bush senior win the primary, but Reagan got most if the delegates.

Here’s a good article.

http://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/winner-take-some-how-delegates-are-awarded-in-the-pennsylvania-gop-presidential-prirmary&template=mobileart


141 posted on 03/23/2016 12:48:20 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: Eccl 10:2

Pennsylvania has 71 delegates not 17.


142 posted on 03/23/2016 1:14:05 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Eccl 10:2

California is a winner take all state and Trump has a big lead there.

Maryland is also a winner take all state and Trump is winning there too.

Based on the missing Pennsylvania delegates and your wrong assumption on the California delegates allocation, Trump has more than the 30 short.


143 posted on 03/23/2016 1:19:28 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Jeff Head

Well, the gop is obviously trying to force this into a convention. They’re willing to screw the voters and lose the presidency to the hag. All in an attempt to retain power for their minions. But they fail to consider one little problem: scorched earth.

Scorched earth in this context is where millions of pissed off Trump supporters show up at the general and vote against all down ticket republicans. The gop not only loses the presidency as intended, it also loses a healthy amount down ticket.

I think the gop would be better off simply nominating the candidate who gets the most delegates. But if they really want to play for all the marbles and lose badly, then go for it.


144 posted on 03/23/2016 1:23:02 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOP delenda est)
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To: Jeff Head
But there are only 763 delegates left to win.

I agree with you overall, but on this point, the party has six extra delegates from the Virgin Islands (link) and nine from American Samoa. Also, Colorado is playing games with their 37 delegates (link). And, some states allow delegates to be uncommitted, sometimes for candidates who have dropped out. Pennsylvania, has 54 "soft pledged" delegates (link) and (link). Another one from Wyoming (link), and possibly five from Guam (link), etc.

So, you're correct, but there are unfortunately a lot of delegates that exist which the establishment can use to pump up the numbers for Cruz (or allocate to someone else), especially if Cruz gets close enough. (Yes, they apparently hate Trump so much they are rooting for Cruz -- it's the crazy season.)
145 posted on 03/23/2016 1:23:49 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: castlegreyskull

“Pennsylvania has 71 delegates not 17.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Nice catch! Nate’s boys are wrong.

71-17 = 54 more delegates in PA changes everything.

Well done.


146 posted on 03/23/2016 1:25:34 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If the delegates cannot agree on Trump or Cruz after multiple ballots, I’d take Gingrich, Perry, Jindal, or Walker. (In no particular order.)


147 posted on 03/23/2016 1:25:35 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Ingtar

Do you think he can get that? I’m not sure what states coming up he can get a majority of delegates, unless their caucuses...Montana?


148 posted on 03/23/2016 1:27:24 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: enumerated

Well, the article seems to be saying the voters will be picking the 54. It seems to at least imply to me that the 54 don’t HAVE to commit but maybe MAY commit at the April 26 Primary.

Looks like the same is true with Colorado and Wyoming - the delegates choose whether to commit or remain unbound going into the convention.


149 posted on 03/23/2016 1:31:39 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: TEXOKIE

Nothing in the Wisconsin polling (admittedly a month out of date) makes me think Trump has this state in the bag.


150 posted on 03/23/2016 1:32:04 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: cincinnati65

Actually, that has been his entire campaign strategy for the past couple of months


151 posted on 03/23/2016 1:43:01 PM PDT by digger48
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To: castlegreyskull
California is a winner take all state and Trump has a big lead there.

Neither the first nor the last part of your statement is true. California allocates delegates by congressional district winner. Trump looks to be hanging on to a 5% lead over Cruz with Rubio and Kasich Still included in the poll. I doubt Trump wins CA.

152 posted on 03/23/2016 1:47:41 PM PDT by John Valentine ( Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: castlegreyskull

Apparently we are both wrong:

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2016/03/the-gop-nomination-math-confusing-and-complicated/

States like Pennsylvania and California, with their huge delegate slates, are considered winner-take-all elections with a catch. In California, there are 53 Congressional districts, each with three votes. The candidate with the most votes within that district gets its three votes. So if Trump wins 25 districts and Cruz wins 25 districts, each gets 75 delegates.

In Pennsylvania, there is a loophole primary, where a proxies for the candidates run in each Congressional district. But 17 of the state’s 71 delegates go to the winner of the state-wide vote.

And in Trump’s home state, New York, its delegates are part of a winner-take-most process. Of the state’s 95 delegates, 81 are selected in 27 Congressional districts. In each district, if a candidate gets more than 50 percent of the vote, he gets all three votes; if not, the top candidate gets two votes, and second-place finisher gets one vote.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So every state is different.


153 posted on 03/23/2016 1:50:11 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Windflier

“Perhaps Trump will agree to be Cruz’s Vice President and their combined effort will carry the day.”

Perhaps Ronald Reagan will agree to be George HW Bush’s VP.

Sounds about as logical as what you just said.
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That deal may just go down!


154 posted on 03/23/2016 1:50:12 PM PDT by Canedawg ( Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: niki

You continue the race to insure the front runner doesn’t trip over his own feet.


155 posted on 03/23/2016 1:52:19 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Jeff Head

Trump also won Missouri. It’s not orange on your map.


156 posted on 03/23/2016 1:53:34 PM PDT by CatDancer (Praise the Lord and Vote Trump!)
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To: Jeff Head
I doubt Cruz would drop out for any reason now.

Trump has made this personal, and actually he has from the start- All the "Lyin Ted" bullsh#t, and everything else-Not gonna happen, people might wake up, or it will go to the convention.

Then again Trump has a good chance of getting enough delegates anyway- which IMO still means a loss in the general election.

There is NO WAY Trump will be able to unite the party to support him in November.

And I wonder how much of his own money is he going to spend to run against Hillary? Good luck with getting donations.

In either case Hillary wins :(

157 posted on 03/23/2016 1:58:08 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Canedawg

“That deal may just go down!”

What deal? Trump agreeing to run as Ted’s VP? After having won a greater share of the people’s votes, and after having been a world class executive for four decades?

Not a chance in Hades, my friend.


158 posted on 03/23/2016 2:05:32 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jeff Head
If they can successfully deny Trump the delegates, they will turn on Cruz in a heartbeat and in a brokered convention seek to throw him to the curb and bring in a GOPe approved candidate...and say to hell with what the people wanted.

Absolutely true. They will stab him in the back and install John Kaisiche or Paul Ryan. Cruz knows this but figures he can prevail over GOPe back stabbers.

159 posted on 03/23/2016 2:11:33 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Cruz knows this but figures he can prevail over GOPe back stabbers.

And how has that worked for him worked for him so far? They still blame Cruz for the last government shutdown, and the one thing the establishment does well is pay back those who cross them.

-PJ

160 posted on 03/23/2016 2:16:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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