Posted on 05/06/2016 7:31:17 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
Or 4 bags of play sand.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Quikrete-50-lb-Fast-Setting-Concrete-Mix-100450/100318521
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Quikrete-50-lb-Play-Sand-111351/100318476
The next time you're in Home Depot. Walk down the concrete aisle and just imagine how easy it would be to carry FOUR bags of concrete mix or sand.
I’m a Catholic-the body and blood has never been consumed literally-it is communion wafers and wine-the rest is a matter of symbolic transformation and faith, but I’m pretty sure you know that...
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
I know nothing other than what many FR Catholics have typed in these threads over the years.
Symbolism is NOT allowed.
Everyone does not see transformation the same, since faith is a personal matter for most of us-but the cast-in-stone literal view is not what anyone I know subscribes to-that is like the way the enemies of Christian Rome used to try to scare the people of occupied provinces-by telling them that the Roman priests ate flesh and drank blood when worshipping their god-it was not literally true then, either...
I take it you do not like Catholics-I’m sorry to hear that...
Is The Eucharist Really Christ's Body and Blood?
The Real Presence Of Jesus Christ In The Sacrament Of The Eucharist: Basic Questions And Answers
I’ve done 3 97-pound bags of portland cement, but never four. Many years, and lots of added flab, since I could do that.
Note, though, I said HORSE feathers; about as real as the golden tablets referenced in the OP I was replying to.
Researchers have hopes that further translation of the hieroglyphics may uncover the reasons as to why the Mayan civilization collapsed in this region.
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They must have elected their own Obama.
It’s a little-known fact that ancient peoples worshipped Q-Bert and built courses for him.
“Unless you are saying it was a good thing the Spanish annihilated the Mayans.”
If the Spanish “annihilated” the Mayans why are there still Mayans now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_peoples
Since you’re obviously wrong about the Mayans, maybe you should rethink your “Nazis arriving in Poland” analogy.
Sorry to hear they have xlosed so much of the Chichen Itza site. I got some great pixs from the top of the Pyramid back in the day.
Byt the eeriest part of the exploration was the descent into the interior of a pyrmid to a chamber with a statute of the Jaguar god. The passage way was very steeop and very small in diameter. Becaouse there was a long line of tourists going both ways, up and down, the oxygen was used up and it was hard to breathe. Great side trip from Cancun.
Thank you for not brutalizing her in open forum.
WRONG!!!! yours is a protestant variation on the truth of the Eucharist. Catholicism teaches that the EUCHARIST is THE BODY, BLOOD, SOUL, AND DIVINITY OF JESUS CHRIST......NOT A SYMBOL.
Upon what EVIDENCE do you base your findings?
Thanks; Brother.
Do gooders have screwed up just about everything!
At least one can STILL choose to try to kill themselves descending into the Grand Canyon on maintained trails.
That's the easy part...
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