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I'm debating some exiled Cruz Bots who fled to TBR on how the Phoney hysteria over the Judge did not hurt Trump. They posted this poll as a counter argument. Any help debunking it would be appreciated.
1 posted on 06/09/2016 6:40:26 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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IMO Trump should have made way more of democrat party supporters waiting outside of a Trump event and beating people as they left.

This is unprecedented in modern American history and shows who the left/hillary supporters are.

Political capital that was mostly wasted.


42 posted on 06/09/2016 8:08:12 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals and Islamists are the Nazis and Stalinists of the 21st century. This time they are united.)
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Not paying attention to these polls till the end of September because IMO they are meaningless.


44 posted on 06/09/2016 8:22:12 AM PDT by TheStickman (Trump will be the 1st Pro-America President since Ronald Reagan)
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Dead cat bounce for Hitlery?


45 posted on 06/09/2016 8:22:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
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Rasmussen sold his Polling firm to a big media outfit so Buyer Beware !
This smells to high heaven .

Any poll with 15 % for Other is a Push Poll cooked up for the US Dem

media Never Trump Push .


47 posted on 06/09/2016 8:24:35 AM PDT by ncalburt
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It’s within the margin of error, which makes it essentially a tie. It’s only natural that Clintoon would get a bounce this week. But it’s a pretty weak bounce. This poll shows that not much has changed in the race.


52 posted on 06/09/2016 8:31:16 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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America - sliding down the toilet one flush at a time.


56 posted on 06/09/2016 8:48:31 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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It’s going to be a bitter, nasty, painful election. Period. VPs could decide this election. Trump and Clinton need to pick someone safe as their VP. I would advise Trump to pick Tim Pawlenty or John Thune as VP. The attention will be on Donald anyway, so pick a vice president who will not rock the boat or distract. Put Pawlenty or Thune in IA, WI, OH, and let Trump focus on Florida. Period.


57 posted on 06/09/2016 8:57:29 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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I wish FR would stop criticizing polls that show Clinton is in the lead.

We were cheering when this poll said Trump was up 5% several weeks ago.

I thought we learned that lesson from 2012 when we didn't believe polls we didn't like.

58 posted on 06/09/2016 9:00:39 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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No way to debunk any of the polls right now. I do agree most Americans are stupid now and that is why Hillary is assured of at least 48% of the vote.

As far as poll watching goes, wait until after the conventions to get an idea of where the race is going.


59 posted on 06/09/2016 9:36:01 AM PDT by Angels27
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Special Report
How Carter Beat Reagan
Washington Post admits polling was “in-kind contribution”; New York Times agenda polling.
By Jeffrey Lord – 9.25.12
Dick Morris is right.

Here’s something Dick Morris doesn’t mention. And he’s charitable.

Remember when Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980?

That’s right. Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980.

In a series of nine stories in 1980 on “Crucial States” — battleground states as they are known today — the New York Times repeatedly told readers then-President Carter was in a close and decidedly winnable race with the former California governor. And used polling data from the New York Times/CBS polls to back up its stories.

Four years later, it was the Washington Post that played the polling game — and when called out by Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins a famous Post executive called his paper’s polling an “in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.” Mondale, of course, being then-President Reagan’s 1984 opponent and Carter’s vice president.

All of which will doubtless serve as a reminder of just how blatantly polling data is manipulated by liberal media — used essentially as a political weapon to support the liberal of the moment, whether Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984 — or Barack Obama in 2012.
First the Times in 1980 and how it played the polling game.
The states involved, and the datelines for the stories:
· California — October 6, 1980
· Texas — October 8, 1980
· Pennsylvania — October 10, 1980
· Illinois — October 13, 1980
· Ohio — October 15, 1980
· New Jersey — October 16, 1980
· Florida — October 19, 1980
· New York — October 21, 1980
· Michigan — October 23, 1980

Of these nine only one was depicted as “likely” for Reagan: Reagan’s own California. A second — New Jersey — was presented as a state that “appears to support” Reagan.

The Times led their readers to believe that each of the remaining seven states were “close” — or the Times had Carter leading outright.

In every single case the Times was proven grossly wrong on election day. Reagan in fact carried every one of the nine states.

Here is how the Times played the game with the seven of the nine states in question.

• Texas: In a story datelined October 8 from Houston, the Times headlined:

Texas Looming as a Close Battle Between President and Reagan
The Reagan-Carter race in Texas, the paper claimed, had “suddenly tightened and now shapes up as a close, bruising battle to the finish.” The paper said “a New York Times/CBS News Poll, the second of seven in crucial big states, showing the Reagan-Carter race now a virtual dead heat despite a string of earlier polls on both sides that had shown the state leaning toward Mr. Reagan.”

The narrative? It was like the famous scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy and her friends stare in astonishment as dog Toto pulls back the curtain in the wizard’s lair to reveal merely a man bellowing through a microphone. Causing the startled “wizard” caught in the act to frantically start yelling, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” In the case of the Times in its look at Texas in October of 1980 the paper dismissed “a string of earlier polls on both sides” that repeatedly showed Texas going for Reagan. Instead, the Times presented this data:
A survey of 1,050 registered voters, weighted to form a probable electorate, gave Mr. Carter 40 percent support, Mr. Reagan 39 percent, John. B. Anderson, the independent candidate, 3 percent, and 18 percent were undecided. The survey, conducted by telephone from Oct. 1 to Oct. 6, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

In other words, the race in Texas is close, assures the Times, with Carter actually in the lead.

What happened? Reagan beat Carter by over 13 points. It wasn’t even close to close.

http://spectator.org/articles/34732/how-carter-beat-reagan


74 posted on 06/10/2016 2:50:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (La Raza thugs in America are Mexico's form of Isis terrorism/terrorists/invaders!!)
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I’m sure they polled San Jose residents for this one


75 posted on 06/10/2016 2:52:54 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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I suspected Hillary would get a temporary lift once she clinched the nomination. It will fade.


76 posted on 06/10/2016 2:54:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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It’s the cordinated full court press the lying media is Running on Trump that’s hurting him. Trump is getting censored left and right by the press far worse than anything I’ve seen before. He’s going to have to find a way to get past the gate keepers to get his message out.


77 posted on 06/10/2016 2:56:25 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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Mrs. Bill is running a point behind Mr. Bill 24 years ago, but it’s still enough!


78 posted on 06/12/2016 8:34:10 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum and Paul Nehlen 2016)
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