Posted on 08/30/2016 11:00:06 AM PDT by Paul46360
Tracer rounds. Good idea...
By chewing on it, I suppose.................
They ran out?...............
If this becomes law, no manufacturer will sell in IL.
It will become an ammunition desert.
Or people will simply drive to WI, IN, IA, MO, KY.
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lol.........
id stamp bullets?
Wonderful idea!
Sheer genius!
(why didn’t I think of that, not being too bright myself?)
After all, we all KNOW that bullets do not get damaged nor deform after firing.
I mean....just because the bullet went thru something or someone and then slammed into a brick or concrete wall or hit a rock, etc...there is NEVER any deformation that might obscure a stamped serial number....which would have to be a very, very, very big number...just to number all of Obama’s billions of recently purchased/ordered bullets.
duh?
“Why not ballistic ‘Bullet Print’ each gun....
They already do in many places. When you buy a new gun you get a fired case that can go to the police files. Each gun has a serial number also so when someone is killed and their gun retrieved they can go after the person that had the gun stolen in the first place. Criminals do no buy guns so why would they buy bullets?”
Great idea....all legally purchased guns thus go into a massive database. Then, when a thug steals some citizen’s firearm and commits a crime with it, the original citizen can be identified and sent to prison for whatever crime the thug committed. Great idea! Would allow the govt to report that they had “solved” more crimes and “put away” more “criminals”....thus rivaling the current govt unemployment statistics in truth and accuracy.
Genius!
Take .22 long rifle ammo as an example. Annual production is estimated at is estimated at 2–2.5 billion rounds. And the .22 LR bullet is quite small. Most are only copper washed or plain lead.
How about NO PAROLE FOR VIOLENT CRIMINALS?
and the criminals will still have bullets
Other states are considering this also..
Micro-stamping has been discussed here at FR for many years and the primary reason that the Gun-Grabbers keep trying this is to start putting local gun shops out of business.
The gun-grabbers well know that gun owners can and do obtain ammo either in bulk or from other local jurisdiction where there would be no such law.
Tuesday, August 30, 2016 06:15PM
CHICAGO (WLS) —
An Illinois state lawmaker plans to propose a bill that would require serial numbers be stamped on all ammunition sold in Illinois.
State Rep. Sonya Harper, D-Chicago, believes that serial numbers would help track bullets and help police identify those who are illegally distributing ammunition.
“We’re not trying to get rid of responsible gun owners guns, we just want to know how the guns and the bullets are getting into the hands of our youth and causing senseless harm and murder,” Harper said.
Harper was joined on Tuesday by several state lawmakers, Chicago aldermen and others in support of the proposal.
Harper said she hopes to file the bill later this week.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/il-state-lawmaker-wants-serial-numbers-stamped-on-ammunition-/1491724/
Harper is just one of the Democrat stooges owned by Mike Madigan.
Madigan’s lapdogs listed below. These are his votes he owns. The list compiled by The Chicago Tribune Editorial Board.
In the House: Edward “Eddie” Acevedo, D-Chicago;Carol Ammons, D-Urbana; Jaime Andrade, D-Chicago; Luis Arroyo, D-Chicago; Daniel Beiser, D-Alton; John Bradley, D-Marion; Daniel Burke, D-Chicago; Kelly Burke, D-Evergreen Park; Katherine Cloonen, D-Kankakee; Deb Conroy, D-Villa Park; Jerry Costello II, D-Smithton; Fred Crespo, D-Hoffman Estates; Barbara Flynn Currie, D-Chicago; John D’Amico, D-Chicago;Will Davis, D-Homewood; Anthony DeLuca, D-Chicago Heights; Marcus Evans, D-Chicago; Sara Feigenholtz, D-Chicago; Laura Fine, D-Glenview; Mary Flowers, D-Chicago; LaShawn Ford, D-Chicago; Robyn Gabel, D-Evanston; Jehan Gordon-Booth, D-Peoria; Will Guzzardi, D-Chicago; Sonya Harper, D-Chicago; Greg Harris, D-Chicago; Elizabeth Hernandez, D-Chicago; Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea;Fran Hurley, D-Chicago; Eddie Lee Jackson Sr., D-East St. Louis; Thaddeus Jones, D-Calumet City.
The NRA-ILA ILLINOIS already went though this crap back in 2008 and a firearms examiner explained in detail, why this would never work, but we know that the Dims will continue, with the help of the media to convince the sheeple that this will solve the issue of murders in Democrat controlled big cities.
Lengthy article:
Why Microstamping and
Bullet Serialization Won’t Work
A firearm examiner dispels the myths of these common gun-ban schemes being pushed in states throughout the nation.
by C. Rodney James, Ph.D.
As an independent firearm examiner, the fact that I am paid by prosecution, defense or an individual makes no difference. I work for science. My job is to find out what happened. As one who works with law enforcement, I want the bad guys punished. I also want to see the innocent freed and the law-abiding citizen unmolested by government. As a taxpayer, I want my taxes spent wisely.
Working for a government subcontractor, I personally watched millions of dollars frittered away through bureaucratic ineptitude, always with the best of “stated” intentions. Living through this made a lasting impression. With the proposed schemes of microstamping and ammunition coding, I see a plan to destroy the American ammunition industry while invigorating crime from the organized level down to the street thug.
With microstamping and bullet serialization, we face the latest schemes to evolve from what has previously been referred to as “Ballistic Fingerprinting.” This idea was to create a databank of images of the rifling striae, or marks, on fired test bullets as well as breech face signatures (impressions) and firing-pin impressions on a fired cartridge case for all new semi-auto handguns—and possibly all new guns—sold in the United States. The idea would be to include these images for comparison with crime-scene ammunition evidence entered into the current computer system using the Integrated Ballistic Identification System (IBIS), which is the actual hardware and software system used under the National Integrated Ballistic Identification Network (NIBIN).
With IBIS/NIBIN (as it now stands), the computers do a rough comparison of bullet and breech-face characteristics with those in the crime-evidence database and select images within the general “class characteristic” range, leaving the firearm examiner to look for a potential match of individual characteristics. If there is a probable match, the actual fired evidence is requested for a microscopic comparison to a suspected crime firearm.
This is a valuable system utilizing the latest in computer technology, and it has proven an effective means of linking criminals to crimes through guns used in various, often distant locations. It is currently in use to compare crime-scene evidence exclusively.
Alas, there is always someone who will take a great idea and corrupt it. Such is the case with the idea to enter every new handgun into this database.
What’s wrong with the notion of adding non-crime guns to the mix? The short answer is: just about everything. This plan was actually implemented in New York and Maryland. And after more than five years in operation, neither system has been responsible for a single conviction.
As a firearm examiner, I know about 50 methods that smart—and even not-so-smart—criminals could use to bypass or defeat such a new-gun “fingerprinting” database. And even beyond that fact are the following issues:
Read at:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20080801/why-microstamping-and-bullet-serializat
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