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Sen. Ted Cruz Proposes to 'Stop the Flow of Refugees' After Weekend Attacks
NBC DFW ^ | 9/19

Posted on 09/19/2016 9:54:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nathanbedford
Hardly a rational and widely shared basis upon which to throw over our Constitution and embark on a whole new politics for America.

You say that like it hasn't already happened.

81 posted on 09/20/2016 10:31:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: GBA
I'm one of those and, while we once might have agreed about young Teddy Cruz,

I don't think so, since I was never a Cruz supporter.

I definitely do not see Cruz now in the same ways as perhaps you do.

And what way would that be?

I think the behavior of certain people here regarding Cruz is deplorable and pathetic. That's pretty much it. It's best not to infer anything beyond that.

82 posted on 09/21/2016 2:41:56 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: itsahoot
I agree with your assessment entirely, in fact, I have published a reply several times which argues that our Constitution is being amended by stealth every day and we are virtually powerless to stop it.

I support the election about Trump in the hope that he will be able to reduce the pace of usurped Tatian in our post-constitutional world. But I am not naïve, even a man of his talents and energy will be hard-pressed to turn this ship of state around. He will find as John F. Kennedy did when he said in words to this effect, "I tell the bureaucracy what to do but nothing happens"that entrenched interests from K St. to Capitol Hill, to our highest court, to the darkest corners of our bureaucracies will have their way under the current structure no matter who is president.

Therefore I support Article V and I think I'm entitled to ask you where you stand on the Article V movement?


83 posted on 09/21/2016 5:24:35 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: nathanbedford
Therefore I support Article V and I think I'm entitled to ask you where you stand on the Article V movement?

I am not opposed to it, I just don't think it will matter. I don't think ballots or the Constitution will undo what a corrupt system has put so firmly in place.

I wish I could be more optimistic but at my age I will never see it heal and likely will miss the worst of the collapse.

I firmly believe Trump will get the most votes, but I am not convinced he will win. if he does win I have little faith that he will ever serve.

My problem with you recently is your obsession with Cruz whom I believe to be an absolute fraud.

84 posted on 09/21/2016 8:01:25 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I was being careful not to infer too much about you specifically. Thank you for that reminder.

I do agree with this: "...the behavior of certain people regarding Cruz is deplorable and pathetic."

However, I don't assume that we agree on which people nor agree on what behavior is pathetic or deplorable.

As it is, my nationalistic opinion of Cruz, and a few of his most public supporters, is biblical and Constitutional, but it's not very Christian.

I'm working on it.

85 posted on 09/21/2016 8:10:32 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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I was being careful not to infer too much about you specifically.

Thanks.

86 posted on 09/21/2016 9:17:32 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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You’re welcome. I regret that my attempt wasn’t more obvious and thank you for that feedback.


87 posted on 09/21/2016 9:28:09 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
I regret that my attempt wasn’t more obvious and thank you for that feedback.

In hindsight it was. It's just that I'm not used to seeing sanely worded comments these days.

88 posted on 09/21/2016 9:37:49 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I think the behavior of certain people here regarding Cruz is deplorable and pathetic. That's pretty much it. It's best not to infer anything beyond that.

Having once been a Cruz supporter, my own take is that he, and his supporters were the ones who own the tag of deplorable and pathetic.

When I switched to preferring Trump, it was in February, I didn't have any reason to dislike Cruz, I simply saw that Trump was a better candidate, a better person to be president at this time in our history, one who could actually win.

Since then, I have watched Cruz leave most of his principles behind. Many, by now most, of his supporters noticed, and one by one they stopped supporting him. At the end, after his suicidal speech at the convention, he only had true believers left. I find that kind of sad. Ted goes against everything he supposedly stood for, other than petulance, and continues to do so, and in so doing helps Hillary and the left in their attempts to destroy us, and bury us once and for all.

Cruz has brought himself to a low opinion here at FR the old fashioned way. He earned it.

It's his true believing supporters who excuse his behavior as something good, somehow "conservative", and somehow principled that I find the most deplorable. They should know better, they should be smarter (someone's tagline), but they don't and they aren't.

89 posted on 09/21/2016 10:03:20 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
It's just that I'm not used to seeing sanely worded comments these days.

Especially from me! Lol! No worries...

I'm the first to point out that my writing here, there and everywhere sux big time.

I frequently fail to write what my head is thinking, but even then, my thinking is barely 'nearly normal', and then only on my best days.

I'm a pretty good wallflower/gray man and I probably should keep my opinions to my own self, but the Natural Born Citizen issue is very important to me on several levels, both as an American, but also in a "Bigger Picture" kinda way.

I've come to believe that our time's continual redefining in our own image the things that cannot be redefined, as well as our redefining our ideals and high standards down to the lowest common worldly denominators, are part of "Satan's vomit" that he's been pouring all over the world as discussed in Scripture, primarily in Revelation/Apocalypse.

Satan is the "Deceiver" and when I give the results of our incessant redefining the "By their fruits" test, our stuff is like Scriptural deja vu with that new world odor smell.

We should stop our selves, but we can't.

90 posted on 09/22/2016 9:41:18 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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