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President Donald Trump's First Negotiation Was A Humiliation (Barf between horse laughs)
MSNBC ^ | 27/1/17 | Lawrence O'Donnel

Posted on 01/31/2017 12:38:37 AM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: tired&retired
N-i-c-e take, t&r.

Trump got the Mexican government to show its hand relating to its drug and cartel involvement..... (See link: “Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels")

FOLLOW THE MONEY-----the resignation of Agustin Carstens, chief of Mexico’s central bank, has left MSM pundits and even business analysts scratching their heads. It appears no-one has any idea why Carstens is leaving…...... well, almost no-one.

Betcha there's a lot of THERE, there.

ITEM--- Mexico has been swilling at the US trough....grabbing our tax dollars hand over fist.

ITEM---Mesico is one of the top ten countries receiving US foreign aid----almost a billion per year besides raking in hundreds of millions via the infamous "Merida Project."

ITEM--- Mexicans here send home back billions of our tax dollars.....the federales are prolly getting a huge cut of that.

ITEM--Some 125 countries including Muslim scum gather at the Mexican border to stroll into the US. Mexico prolly gets a fee from each country to let that happen.

Before he exited, Obama requested billions for Mexico "to fight drug cartels."

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21 posted on 01/31/2017 3:19:24 AM PST by Liz
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Even more of Mexico's underhandedness, greed and duplicity is that it inveigled the US into "The Merida Initiative" ....Mexico's conniving plot to get US tax dollars to FIGHT cartels.

.......where is this money going? where are the arms and weaponry we generously gave mexico to fight cartels?....

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WIKI-—With the Merida Initiative set to expire on September 30, 2010, the U.S. State Department (under SoS Hillary) has proposed a major renewal and expansion of the program. If approved, starting in 2011, $310 million would be granted to Mexico, another $100 million for the Central American Regional Security Initiative (CARSI), and $79 million for the Caribbean Basin Security Initiative (CBSI).[28]

The U.S. Congress has now authorized $1.6 billion for the three-year initiative (2007–2010). The U.S. Congress approved $465 million in the first year, which includes $400 million for Mexico and $65 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. For the second year, Congress approved $300 million for Mexico and $110 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic and Haiti. A FY09 supplemental appropriation is providing an additional $420 million for Mexico; and $450 million for Mexico and $100 million for Central America has been requested for FY10.[20]

Only about $204 million of that, however, will be earmarked for the Mexican military for the purchase of eight used transport helicopters and two small surveillance aircraft. No weapons are included in the plan.[21][22][23] The bill requires that $73.5 million of the $400 million for Mexico must be used for judicial reform, institution-building, human rights and rule-of-law issues.

The bill specifies that 15% of the funds will be dependent on Mexico making headway in four areas relating to human-rights issues, and on which the U.S. Secretary of State will have to report periodically to Congress.[24][25]

An additional $65 million was granted for the Central American countries (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama); the House also included Haiti and the Dominican Republic in this bill for Central America, which is a comprehensive public security package that seeks to tackle citizen insecurity in Central America by more effectively addressing criminal gangs, improving information sharing between countries, modernizing and professionalizing the police forces, expanding maritime interdiction capabilities, and reforming the judicial sector in order to restore and strengthen citizens confidence in those institutions.[26]

Much of the funding will never leave the United States. It will go toward the purchase of aircraft, surveillance software, and other goods and services produced by U.S. private defense contractors.

While this request includes equipment and training, it does not involve any cash transfers or money to be provided directly to the Government of Mexico or its private contractors.

According to U.S. State Department officials, 59% of the proposed assistance will go to civil agencies responsible for law enforcement, and 41% to operational costs for the Mexican Army and Mexican Navy. While the initial cost for equipment and hardware that the military required is high, it is expected that future budget requests will focus increasingly on training and assistance to civil agencies.

As of November 2009, the U.S. has delivered about $214 million of the pledged $1.6 billion.[27]

22 posted on 01/31/2017 3:20:05 AM PST by Liz
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To: Eleutheria5

Because it makes so much more sense economically for us to use burdensome income tax to pay
off the debt instead of Mexican import tax...

These people violate the Founders rule of never paying export taxes


23 posted on 01/31/2017 3:28:53 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Whenifhow; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Grampa Dave; Arthur Wildfire! March; Mr Apple; frog in a pot; ...
PASS THE WORD..............

tired&retired insightfully wrote: Trump grasps the bigger picture and just got the Mexican government to show its hand relating to its own drug and cartel involvement.

REFERENCES (See “Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels””)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/mexican-official-threatens-combat-president-trump-unleashing-drug-cartels

24 posted on 01/31/2017 3:31:23 AM PST by Liz
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

A tariff is but one way to recover the cost. Another way is a tax on money transferred to Mexico. Currently about 23 BILLION dollars is wired to Mexico fro America and even a 1% tax will recoup 230 million annually.

A tariff will not necessarily increase the cost of Mexican goods in America (to the ultimate purchaser) as the exporter may choose to “eat” all of part of the increase by lowering his price, ditto the importer, the wholesaler and the retail merchant. The degree to which they do this depends on how important to them is their market share on those items.


25 posted on 01/31/2017 4:08:59 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: Liz; tired&retired; WildHighlander57

tired&retired insightfully wrote: Trump grasps the bigger picture and just got the Mexican government to show its hand relating to its own drug and cartel involvement.

REFERENCES (See “Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels””)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/mexican-official-threatens-combat-president-trump-unleashing-drug-cartels

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Exactly right!
The Master Strategist at work!

Trump grasps the bigger picture and just got the Mexican government to show its hand relating to drug and cartel involvement.

Similar article:

Jaw Dropping – Mexican Official Threatens to Unleash Cartels, Flood U.S. With Drugs and Narcotics….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3518916/posts
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/29/jaw-dropping-mexican-official-threatens-to-unleash-cartels-flood-u-s-with-drugs-and-narcotics/

Excerpt:

This is the most politically explosive admission by the Mexican government in the past decade. ....

Castaneda is openly admitting a willingness to promote drug trafficking. Additionally, Jorge Castaneda is so proud of the threat, he even posted a video of the discussion on his own YouTube page.....

....the implications here are so politically explosive, and the admission so brutally obvious and threatening, it could undermine the entire argument of the Mexican government and expose an open secret of collusion they would prefer to remain hidden.


26 posted on 01/31/2017 7:10:50 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow; All
“Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels”)

LINK http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/mexican-official-threatens-combat-president-trump-unleashing-drug-cartels

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ACT NOW---Domestic and international laws could very well have been breached. Mexico's dangerous and harmful threats could impact US trade, statess economies and interstate and international commerce.

CONTACT CONGRESS:
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TALKING POINTS---Whenifhow posted: This is the most politically explosive admission by the Mexican government in the past decade. .... Castaneda is openly admitting a willingness to promote drug trafficking. Additionally, Jorge Castaneda is so proud of the threat, he even posted a video of the discussion on his own YouTube page..... ....the implications here are so politically explosive, and the admission so brutally obvious and threatening, it could undermine the entire argument of the Mexican government and expose an open secret of collusion they would prefer to remain hidden.

27 posted on 01/31/2017 7:25:52 AM PST by Liz
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To: Elsie

OK thanks!


28 posted on 01/31/2017 7:44:07 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Transcript matches to video.


29 posted on 01/31/2017 3:49:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

And negotiators often pretend to have no interest in a deal as an opening negotiating tactic. What is going on in diplomatic channels? Only the two presidents may know, and if anything was happening, O’Don-key would be the last to know.


30 posted on 01/31/2017 3:52:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Whenifhow

Only one problem. Jorge Castañeda Gutman is a former Secretary of Foreign Affairs in Mexico, not a current official, as the text of the article openly states.


31 posted on 01/31/2017 4:00:14 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Liz

This is a former Mexican official, not a sitting one.

“Jorge Castañeda Gutman, former Secretary of Foreign Affairs in Mexico, took things a step further during an interview on CNN with Fareed Zakaria when he suggested that Mexico’s previous cooperation with the U.S. in curbing the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants could end.”


32 posted on 01/31/2017 4:02:47 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

As a “former” official, Gutman knows only too well the way his govt operates.

He has enormous credibility.


33 posted on 01/31/2017 4:14:07 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; tired&retired

Great comment from tired&retired. So true.

Thanks for the ping, Liz.


34 posted on 01/31/2017 4:29:53 PM PST by Bigg Red (The best f-word we can apply to Obama on this glorious inauguration day is "former".)
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To: Liz

Even so, this is not an official statement by the Mexican government, which is probably exactly why he was chosen to make the statement. All of this is for public consumption on both sides of the Rio Grande, by both Presidents, I think. They’re both after street cred with their respective bases. The real stuff won’t get on the news until they work out a deal.


35 posted on 01/31/2017 4:35:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Liz

Dear Liz,

Seems to me that i remember once in history, the American Army stood on the steps of the Mexican capitol building, after conquering the entire country of Mexico, and desttroying the Mexican Army, with the late great Santa Ana signing the Treaty of Guadelupe, ALLOWING Mexico to retain some of the country (We could have taken it all).

I am quite sure that the Mexican government does not have the air superiority or air reconnaisance that we do, even with any help from Cuba.


36 posted on 02/02/2017 9:57:51 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

Trump should declare “Santa Ana Day” in the US.


37 posted on 02/02/2017 10:49:07 AM PST by Liz
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