Posted on 02/16/2017 12:28:44 PM PST by simpson96
After your somewhat...er bullying...responses to angryoldfatman, you should realize that he is right and you are wrong. It would have been nice if you had addressed his points.
That woman is legally liable for having created a hostile working environment and so is her employer if you want to get right down to it. The suicide of that teenage boy is blood on her hands, so the court appears to suspect and I happen to agree. That is the law, like it or not. As far as my “bullying” as you put it, seems to me that I was considerably less so than the person you’re defending. I’m not his employer or superior nor is he mine, thankfully. So, he can continue to fling spittle all he wants, and I can continue to respond as I see fit, funny how that works.
You don’t believe that a person can be driven to suicide? I guess you’re highly amused when people yell “jump” at suicidal people out on a ledge up your way, then.
I don’t think the facts that appeared in a newspaper article warrant a suicide. Making people clean floors in kitchens (especially Mickey D’s - I can only imagine the floor spills!) and having a cheeseburger thrown isn’t exactly Alec Guinness’s taunting of John Mills in Tunes of Glory. Besides, this ridiculous claim that a 21 year old manager of a fast food restaurant “failed Danny” is putting a ludicrous amount of responsibility on a woman barely out of her teens herself.
Somewhere this kid’s parents failed him.
On Jan. 31, a six-person coroner’s jury found Branham was the principal cause of the teen’s suicide. She was charged the next day with second-degree involuntary manslaughter.
Oh, yeah, those genius American juries...OJ, anyone?
OK, so not only do you have a problem with the particular law in this instance, but you have a problem with the jury system of trial in this country?
The jury, six people, clearly believed that the evidence indicated this woman was the principal cause of that teenage boy’s suicide. This led to her being charged with second degree involuntary manslaughter. She will be tried, and if found not guilty she will be acquitted. I happen to agree with her being charged, she was responsible, she drove him to kill himself. You disagree.
Time will tell.
Sorry. Suicide is on the person who commits it, NOBODY ELSE.
No, I don’t have a problem with the jury system so try dropping your virtue-signaling tone. But I do have a problem with people who serve on juries and I gave you one example of a moronic jury allowing a true murderer off the hook.
Suicide is a much more complex issue than a bad boss - we’ve all had them and very few people kill themselves because of it. We quit mostly and get new jobs. Where were the parents? Why aren’t we teaching our children to overcome adversity?
No, I don’t have a problem with the jury system so try dropping your virtue-signaling tone. But I do have a problem with people who serve on juries and I gave you one example of a moronic jury allowing a true murderer off the hook.
Suicide is a much more complex issue than a bad boss - we’ve all had them and very few people kill themselves because of it. We quit mostly and get new jobs. Where were the parents? Why aren’t we teaching our children to overcome adversity?
It’s not “virtue signaling” to point out that you’re questioning the value of the jury system, because you did. You also dislike the law being applied in this instance. Move to Missouri and get to work changing it then. Me, I happen to agree with the charge. I have no problem with the coroner’s jury and their decision. I’m actually in a much stronger position here than you or anyone arguing with me, but I’m the one getting all the stupid snowflake crap thrown at me, by you and others. Again, if it disturbs you so much get off your backside and do something about it. Calling me names accomplishes nothing other than making you look churlish.
You apparently can’t read what I’ve written. I, indeed, have a problem, not with the jury system, but with juries. Have you ever served on one? Have you served with immigrants who have to be educated on the 5th Amendment and when told, rejected it? Served with a Black Panther who refused to listen to witnesses choosing instead to read Guns and Ammo? Ever heard of the increasingly popular jury nullification and grand juries who indict ham sandwiches? I could go on and on but you get my drift. No, I’m not moving to Missouri to do anything you suggest. You have some emotional investment in this which makes you an unreliable narrator.
You apparently can’t read what I’ve written. I, indeed, have a problem, not with the jury system, but with juries. Have you ever served on one? Have you served with immigrants who have to be educated on the 5th Amendment and when told, rejected it? Served with a Black Panther who refused to listen to witnesses choosing instead to read Guns and Ammo? Ever heard of the increasingly popular jury nullification and grand juries who indict ham sandwiches? I could go on and on but you get my drift. No, I’m not moving to Missouri to do anything you suggest. You have some emotional investment in this which makes you an unreliable narrator.
No, dear, I just happen to agree with the charge and have been repeatedly set upon by yourself and others who don’t. Why didn’t you just admit right up front that you only want to keyboard warrior this rather than getting all plotzy and verklempt? It would have been far easier.
I don’t even understand that last post.
BTW, in reading the comments on the actual news site, plenty of people agree with me and others who are so mean to you. And some of them appear to be people who live in Missouri, too, dear.
Such is life. People disgree. Get used to it, rather than flying into hysteria. As far as being “mean” to me, so what. And, so what if you were? No harm, no foul or so I’ve been taught and believed all my life. Was there harm done in the instance of this article in question? Seems there was. Perhaps you disagree with that, too.
My first job in food service was great, great owner and boss. My next job was horrible pretty sure we were all bullied (we didn’t think of it that way then- just had to tough up)- we had to crawl under the deep fryer table to clean the floor because grease would condense/drip down there into a puddle. One of the nastiest jobs I ever had and our boss wasn’t great either, she used that task as punishment if we messed up. The restaurant was owned by a drunk and she would come in and cuss us and call us thieves, pigs, and liars. I clocked out once in the middle of one of her tirades and never looked back. Funny thing is she called me the next morning and wanted to make me the manager, no I did not take her up on it. No more restaurant work for me.
I was raised to believe life would not be easy or fair, and if things got tough I had to be tougher. I was taught that I was responsible for what kind of life I would have and if I wasn’t happy then I needed to do something different. It was no one’s job to make me happy but mine. When people shelter children from the truth we do them no favors.
I wonder if the kid was a real boy or a trans drama girl acting like a boy?
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