Posted on 03/20/2017 11:33:36 AM PDT by Reeses
Eight years ago, I was pink-slipped from my IT job. At the same time, a coworker quit a related job to go direct with our client organization, and the managers said, "Hey, let's put thulldud in that open slot!" And the word came down from corporate HQ, "That position cannot be filled by an 'onshore' resource." And out the door I went (with a golden handshake).
A year later, I was back in that same office, contracting with an offshore consulting/staff-augmentation firm.
Irony much? <snicker>
Screw your friend. Maybe COBOL was a fine place to put those Indians, but on average they are not innovative, not engineers, not good communicators, and NOT AMERICAN PATRIOTS. Your friend should have figured out a way to employ Americans, because he was obviously in a position to do so. Maybe he had the wrong Americans working for him. Who wanted to do COBOL even 20 years ago?
...not good communicators...
The US is just another country, now. If you want to get paid more than an indian, you have to bring skills to the table that he doesn’t possess. The US industry and workers got “rich” rebuilding the world after WWII, and has been living off the credit cars ever since. They are maxed out. The future will not be pretty, and we’re past a human solution. i.e. Trump can’t fix it.
LOL
I hope you informed them that Trump is THE ONLY GUY to talk about putting a stop to this.
Who wanted to do COBOL even 20 years ago?
And all of them were going to become computer programmers?
The politicians who put the 1998 loophole in the 1990 H-1B visa knew exactly what they were doing - betraying their country.
Hanging them after they are tried and found guilty of treason is too good for these politicians. A wood chipper set on very slow speed should be used instead.
Not a similar story but we laid off a programmer who had a pile of projects all over the company. Once a year, we had go to a bar and fetch him to come in to run some jobs. I never heard the rational for kicking him to the curb but he was famous for creating rogue systems in languages no one knew.
I used to love hearing “Run over to Pine Tavern Lounge and get Pete. We have a Clipper app that needs to be changed”.
We hired a Programming outfit from the subcontinent once and it worked great(cheap) until one of them told a VP to “shut up” during a meeting. Hilarious.
They still teach COBOL to every programmer in India.
My retirement plan is to dump this Java/Groovy stuff and do COBOL until they put me in the ground.
H-1b kill it!
This has nothing to do with abortion! Come on. There thousands of US IT workers that coa do this work.
I remember when it came out they were offshoring payroll processing of government employees overseas. Talk about a data breach! Completely Unreal.
I think Trump is going to fix a lot of that. He’s going to have some battles with Congress first though.
So why is this still allowed????
Democrats and RINOs love H1B, H2B and any kind of amnesty or anti-American worker program. Why? What is wrong with these people? I wouldn’t care what was wrong if they could just be removed from any position of power. But there they are so WHY!?
I watched the teasers and the lead-in for this 60 Minutes segment. My question is, Where has CBS been for the last 10 years? This misuse of H1B has been obvious for at least this long.
I’ll see if anyone takes a swing at that in the thread. I can only assume people take a swing at CBS over this in the comments.
Were they at all contrite for having gotten it so wrong? I hope you rubbed their noses in it some.
I’m with you. Now that it’s President Trump, we get stories about people losing jobs to foreign workers. Just wait for the epidemic of homelessness to finally be reported on as well.
At a minimum he should fire all the so called journalists on 60 minutes :)
I lived as an IT Mgr with outsource companies from India both On-shore and Off-shore
1-Yes cost of labor is cheaper, but you get what you pay for. Yes per person it is cheaper, but they are not skilled. Knowledgeable maybe, greatly inexperienced. Especially in a support keep the lights on, sense of urgency role.
2-H1Bs are a revolving door of people. They roll on and roll off. Once you lay your guy off and he did “knowledge transfer” to their guy, they then own that site specific knowledge as it went out the door. You are at the outsourcer’s ability to institutionalize that knowledge. They talk a good game, but they fail at it.
3-Now that your internal knowledge went out the door, and that knowledge now rests with the Outsourcer, good luck getting rid of them. This knowledge becomes the hammer held over your head.
4-You cannot understand a thing they say. Look at the interview with the India IT guy last night on 60 Minutes. They had an interpreter. Imagine having that in a conference room or on the phone with a business user - NOT
5-It is not mutually beneficial to both countries. IT helps India with massive population, appears to help Corporate annual report, hurts American workers.
6-IT has become a commodity. With Windows machines and networks, we have come to expect things crashing, going down, data getting lost, etc. Just another train wreck after another. The million dollar mainframes of the 1980s ran all day long w/o problems. Now problems are what you get when hardware got 100 times cheaper. I just have 200 times more servers as they can only run one Application each.
Why I retired from IT. Windows & Outsourcing. Used to be fun
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