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California Cover Up–Billions to Prop Up Collapsing Pension System
California Political Review ^ | May 22, 2017 | Stephen Frank

Posted on 05/23/2017 10:12:55 AM PDT by george76

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To: olezip

The governor thinks Bernie Madoff is a role model!


21 posted on 05/23/2017 11:31:34 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: george76

Who says slavery and involuntary servitude have been dead in America? Why not everyone get on the govt payroll, then EVERYONE wouldn’t have to worry!! /s


22 posted on 05/23/2017 11:40:21 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: proxy_user

Unless your state has an “exit tax”...


23 posted on 05/23/2017 11:41:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: george76
and another reason to leave for a Free State

No. Absolutely not. You people contributed to the sewer known as kalifornia, and you should be required to stay there. Everyplace you go, you ruin.

The free world is closed to you.

24 posted on 05/23/2017 11:52:53 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: windcliff

...ping....


25 posted on 05/23/2017 12:49:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I’ll be begging at the intersections.


26 posted on 05/23/2017 5:11:40 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: vette6387; cgbg
States can't file for bankruptcy, nor do they ever have to.

There will always be property and people in a state to tax ever higher. If you can't pay the new, super-high tax rate, they get your property for free and sell it to someone else.

27 posted on 05/26/2017 10:15:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“States can’t file for bankruptcy, nor do they ever have to.
There will always be property and people in a state to tax ever higher. If you can’t pay the new, super-high tax rate, they get your property for free and sell it to someone else.”

1. Yes, it’s true States can’t file for bankruptcy but their cities and counties can and have here in CA. Most of the pension deficit is from local entities, not the state. And in the municipal bankruptcies here thus far, the courts have told the cities that they CAN cut pension benefits as part of their reorganization. But thus far, they have managed to avoid having to take that avenue. It is also true that they have papered over their financial problems and will be back in bankruptcy court sooner rather than later and then the pension cuts will, of necessity, be on the table.
2. Proposition 13 limits property taxation. It was a vote of the people and would have to be overturned by a similar action. So the State hasn’t an avenue here to raise revenue and/or take your property. And besides, there would needs be have to bel someone who wanted to purchase it. The only time real property here can be reassessed is when it sells, and that is allowing us aging folks to stay in the homes we bought/built 30 or 40 years ago, and is stagnates a large part of the RE market here.


28 posted on 05/26/2017 10:23:21 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: ConservativeMind

Puerto Rico is a territory, and they have managed to file for bankruptcy.

It will happen in states—they will simply stop paying their bills and the creditor attorneys will find a way...

They may give it another name (lawyers love to make up new concepts) but it will be de facto bankruptcy.


29 posted on 05/26/2017 11:45:26 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: LouAvul

“The free world is closed to you.”

I understand the sentiment but the free world does not actually exist.


30 posted on 05/27/2017 4:27:30 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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