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Jury awards millions to pilots flying improperly packed airplane with USMC MRAPs
USMC Life ^ | July 13, 2017

Posted on 07/19/2017 3:38:14 PM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Retain Mike

I think I understand a little better now. The pilot/flight crew probably verifies the total load and CG, but they have to leave it up to the expertise of the loadmaster to have things secured in place correctly. I can imagine there are flight crews who take it upon themselves (and for all I know, it is common practice for them to do this) to not only to verify those calculations, but to do a walk through and check the status, that the tie downs are taught and secure, etc.


61 posted on 07/20/2017 4:51:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: Pontiac

It sounded like a combination of both of those things, the tie downs were out of spec, and there weren’t enough tie down/pad eyes available.

So, you may be right. Perhaps if the tie downs had been within specs even though they were not tied down TO specification (60 tie downs per vehicle and were only tied down to some number less than that) they might have still handled the load, even if unauthorized.

But all it takes is one to break, and all the rest of them can go, if not tied down to spec.

The USS Monterrey (Gerald Ford served on her in WWII) had a massive fire break out on her during Typhoon Cobra in 1944 that very nearly sank her (and another vessel that passed her in the typhoon as she was blazing from stem to stern was heard to remark over TBS “Well, there goes the Monterrey”) and it was caused by a plane in the hangar bay breaking loose from its tie down, crashing into another plane, which broke loose, and set up a chain reaction where there were flaming planes, engines broken loose, just flying from side to side inside the hangar bay. Amazing she didn’t sink.


62 posted on 07/20/2017 5:00:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Me too. Even though I had never seen it before, it just had that look.


63 posted on 07/20/2017 5:01:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: aviator

There was an A330 that crashed during an early test flight due to a sequence of unexpected events made unrecoverable by an extreme-aft CG.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Industrie_Flight_129


64 posted on 07/20/2017 6:27:42 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hulka

Somehow we have come to a point where knowledge is resented. What a shame that if you actually know something and try to explain it you are branded a know it all.

Interesting that the plane had already flown part of the way from Bastion to Bagram and this was the second takeoff with the load. Bagram required military takeoffs but didnt Bastion?

When the restraint broke the AC was doomed of course. Everyday freighters dodge a bullet all it takes is for one thing to go wrong.


65 posted on 07/20/2017 6:34:52 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Portcall24

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66 posted on 07/20/2017 6:54:28 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DuncanWaring

Not by the CG, by the crew’s action (or inaction). One aggravating factor was the aft CG.


67 posted on 07/20/2017 6:57:56 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: Hulka

BTTT


68 posted on 07/24/2017 12:11:07 PM PDT by manna
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