The REAL Real reason:
Chick magnets.
Posted on 07/25/2017 9:19:04 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Thank you Jimmy Carter
And they have been able to keep those things flying? Maintenance and costs were a big reason we got rid of them.
One thing: don’t put too much trust in narratives which don’t recognize that the Soviets had for a long time had ambitions in Persia.
Well before WW2 the Soviets were trying to take an entire province away from Persia with no provocation as well as destabilize the whole country. The later overflights were just them staying true to form. Soviet, like ChiCom, aggression was rooted in you not being under their thumb, or sufficiently under their thumb, and daring to be independent. They deemed your independence from them to be an aggression ... expect double speak from communists.
A lot more happened than just the 1953 coup and it all began with the Soviets and what happened as Persia, later known as Iran, sought to keep its territories.
The Shah flew into action again. Sometime between 1970 and 1972, he even requested a briefing on the Lockheed YF-12 – the stillborn interceptor variant of the famous SR-71 Blackbird, a Mach-three-capable strategic reconnaissance aircraft.
That deal never materialized, but the two next did. One was the Iranian order for 80 F-14 Tomcats. The other was for seven Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS. While the E-3 was still in development as of 1973, the Tomcat was ready … sort of.
The yf-12 was a long-range Interceptorand guess what was developed for it? the Phoenix missile system
when the yf12 didn’t come to fruition what’s the only other aircraft that carried the long-range Phoenix missile system? the F-14 Tomcat
the Tomcat was a long-range Interceptor with the Phoenix missile system that could also function as an air superiority fighter versus the F-15 which is just an air superiority fighter that did not carry the Phoenix missile system
Where have they been getting parts? Export controls don’t allow for after market parts to be sold to countries like Iran..
I forgot to add there were some other aircrafy that we’re going to carry the Phoenix system
The F111b which was a flop and that’s what the Tomcat was developed to replace
Douglas it had the F6D missile on the drawing board again that was also a Navy aircraft that was basically just a missile hauler ..a sub sonic aircraft ...it was the missile system the Phoenix that could reach out to a hundred miles that was really the driving force
Yep. Like Hitler giving Iran to Stalin as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
By far, one of the best I have ever seen. And I have seen a few...:)
>>Where have they been getting parts? Export controls don’t allow for after market parts to be sold to countries like Iran.<<
The way Cuba gets auto parts I guess — string, bailing wire, etc. You wouldn’t think that would work on a high-performance jet but you wouldn’t think a car could run on a motor transplanted from an air conditioner either.
The jets haven’t been tested in combat since the hostage crisis. I suspect a stiff breeze would knock them down.
***Bear in mind that after the CIA staged a coup against the Iranian government in 1953,***
Wasn’t this just disproved not long ago when the USA released documents about this “coup”?
Good conclusion. Also, the Phoenix missile system included a radar that could independently track and engage multiple targets. That is a very powerful BVR strategic air defense system as opposed to a shaky Sparrow missile and the short range Sidewinder.
Rumor is that the Iranians were using them as AWACs platforms.
The Russians have had designs on Iran (Persia) for more than two hundred years.
Aren’t they just so much junk now that there’s no spare parts?
Iran is unlikely to be able to purchase anything remotely as capable.
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It’s not about communism, it’s about russia’s geopolitical interests - they were sparring with the british in persia and Afghanistan since the 19th century.
Russian imperialism in eastern europe and near east has been a constant for the last few centuries. It’s only the flag and ideological justification for it which gets a new coat of paint when there’s a regime change.
The REAL Real reason:
Chick magnets.
Funny that the two stars of that movie both turned out to be gay.
I was at Andrews AFB during this demonstration, standing about 20 yards from the Shaw of Iran. It wasn't really a fly-off. There was no doubt which aircraft we wanted him to buy. The Navy F-14 pilot put on a magnificent display of its capabilities. The Air Force pilot flew the F-15 like it was a crate of eggs and did not show any of its capabilities.
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