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Ken Livingstone: Venezuela crisis caused by Chávez's failure to kill oligarchs
Guardian UK ^ | Aug 3, 2017 | Jessica Elgot

Posted on 08/03/2017 6:41:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

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To: PapaBear3625

Maduro and his cronies are oligarchs of a tyrannical variety. The only benefit is those in Venezuela who were obese have lost weight. The Big Stump Mustachio remains well fed while the common folks suffer from lack of every staples caused by his heavy hand. But the leftist fools deny this little fact of Venezuelan reality and blame the ‘rich capitalists’ as if there are any remaining there after the current debacle. LIEberal twisted minds of morons in high places.


21 posted on 08/03/2017 7:46:46 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: Socon-Econ
This bloodthirsty commie would have enjoyed the French revolution had he been alive then.

The Cheka could have used a guy like that.

22 posted on 08/03/2017 7:47:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TMA62

According to Marx, Communism (socialism) will only work if you kill off 1/3 of your population (the capital holders...bourgeoisie).

Only then will the workers (the government) control the means of production.

It’s why Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler and others, kill off so many folks. It’s part of the philosophy.


23 posted on 08/03/2017 7:51:40 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: PapaBear3625

When Livingstone was mayor of London, he was known as “Red Ken”.


24 posted on 08/03/2017 7:56:14 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: PapaBear3625

To a bloodthirsty commie an “Oligarch” is anyone who has opened a lemonade stand to the CEO of a multi-conglomeration.

They all just want to have an excuse to kill people in a way that is “Legal” under their communistic system.


25 posted on 08/03/2017 7:58:57 AM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: PapaBear3625

Sure, Ken, and the Kulaks in the Ukraine were responsible for all of Stalin’s troubles. It’s never because Communism doesn’t work.


26 posted on 08/03/2017 8:16:02 AM PDT by katana
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To: PapaBear3625; LucyT; Whenifhow

Venezuela is an excellent example of what a leftist takeover really looks like. Unlike previous leftist takeovers, this is far easier to document the harsh realities. Brazil might also become another clear example.


27 posted on 08/03/2017 8:20:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...)
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To: PapaBear3625

Liquidate the Kulaks, as Lenin said... Chilling to think that such an amoral, bloody Communist could have been elected mayor of a city like London.


28 posted on 08/03/2017 8:23:26 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
. Chilling to think that such an amoral, bloody Communist could have been elected mayor of a city like London.

Then they elected a Jihadist.

29 posted on 08/03/2017 8:29:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: katana

Having “wealth” obstructs Leftists plundering of nations.

Of course Leftists want to execute anyone who obstructs their access to power and money -the true goal of their revolutions.


30 posted on 08/03/2017 8:29:34 AM PDT by Justa
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To: PapaBear3625

He’s right of course. A true commie has to follow the lead of Stalin, Mao, and Kim and constantly purge your supporters to keep everyone else in line.


31 posted on 08/03/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: PapaBear3625
Hmm...socialism works but only if you kill enough people? Lovely. Livingstone hasn't learned a single thing in all these years. Socialism breeds oligarchy, it doesn't supersede it. In fact, the New Boss really does turn out to be the Old Boss more often than not, as Milovan Djilas explained in his watershed The New Class.

This pathetic bleating is nothing more than the standard apologia of a Communist when the mask is torn off to reveal the monster underneath. When Livingstone complains that they didn't take his advice to invest in infrastructure he tactfully neglects to mention what they did do with the money. They stole it. One of Hugo Chavez's daughters is now The Richest Person In Venezuela at $4.2 billion as a result. That could have paid for a lot of infrastructure.

And so it goes. It always seems to run the same course and end up in the same swamp, with the same crowd of useful idiots on the banks sniveling that it all could have been different if they'd only done it differently. I wouldn't give the likes of Red Ken Livingstone any more attention than I'd give a museum exhibit of a two-headed mummy, because he's just as dusty and out of date and just as fake.

32 posted on 08/03/2017 8:30:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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>> the fault of conservatives

Oligarchic Kleptocrats are not conservative.

How 'bout them SOX?

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=if+the+people+knew+what+we%27d+done+bush

 

Personally I'd prefer to have them shopping for SOX here...

https://www.americandetentionsupplies.com/inmate-apparel/womens-underwear

...instead of swinging from lamp posts.

Got Due Process?

Kind'a works better than lynching folks in the context of that whole "A Republic is a system of government constituted by the rule of law" thing.

33 posted on 08/03/2017 8:38:10 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: PapaBear3625
“And here you have it. A British Labour Party politician openly saying that a government should have murdered their political opponents”

I dare say, Britain might have been more free in some ways when they were a real Monarchy. This is what happens when smarmy know nothing know-it-alls in academics and government-run/sponsored socialist positions are given stature and power. Britain would be better off being run by a group of hedgehogs than by people like Livingstone.

34 posted on 08/03/2017 8:53:20 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: PapaBear3625

Ken Livingstone is a fool. All leftists know they need mass murder to hold power. The rest of the progressives are smart enough not to admit the truth and warn the uninformed.


35 posted on 08/03/2017 9:39:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Yikes :

Ken Livingstone fired from radio show for anti-Semitic remarks, INN ^ | 5/28/2016, 9:39 PM | Ari Soffer
Former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone has been fired from his radio show, in response to anti-Semitic comments made last month. Livingstone has already been suspended from the Labour Party, where he was until recently a senior policymaker, after claiming in an interview that Adolf Hitler was a Zionist, and appearing to back some of the Nazi dictator’s earlier policies before he “went mad.” “Let’s remember when Hitler won his election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews,” Livingstone...

Former London Mayor: The Establishment of Israel ‘Fundamentally Wrong’, In ‘32, Hitler wanted...
MEMRI TV ^ | 5/4/16 | Al-Ghad Al-Arabi (UAE/U.K.)
Former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone said, in an interview with Al-Ghad Al-Arabi TV, that when Hitler came to power in 1932, he did not want to kill the Jews. He just wanted to “deport all the Zionists to Israel,” said Livingstone, who further claimed that Britain and the U.S. should have absorbed the Jewish refugees following WWII, rather than enabling the establishment of the state of Israel, which was “fundamentally wrong.” Livingstone added that he never buys Israeli products and that the failure to resolve the Palestinian problem leads Muslims to join ISIS. The interview was conducted on May...

UK’s Labour ‘secretly suspended 50 for anti-Semitic, racist comments’
The Times of Israel ^ | 5/2/16 | staff
Britain’s Labour party has “secretly suspended” 50 of its members for anti-Semitic and racist comments, a UK paper said Monday. The report came as Labour chairman Jeremy Corbyn conceded for the first time Monday that the party does have a problem with anti-Jewish sentiment, but insisted that it is “not a huge problem.” A string of Labour politicians have been publicly suspended recently for making anti-Semitic remarks, among them former London mayor and close Corbyn ally Ken Livingstone, who said Thursday that Hitler supported Zionism before he “went mad and ended up killing 6 million Jews.” Livingstone, who has refused...


36 posted on 08/03/2017 9:44:44 AM PDT by piasa
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Ken Livingstone goes on Iranian TV to ‘blame’ the U.S. for the Boston bombings , Daily Mail UK ^ | April 30th, 2013 | Tara Brady
... Mr Livingstone sparked controversy by suggesting the brothers who launched the attack on the city’s marathon acted ‘out of anger and demand for revenge’ over American foreign policy. US-born Conservative MP Brooks Newmark wrote to opposition leader Ed Miliband calling on him to condemn the remarks, made by the former London mayor on a phone-in on Iranian channel Press TV. He called for the Labour veteran to be removed from the party’s National...

Former London Mayor Blames The U.S. For Boston Bombing Attack, The Washington Times ^ | April 30, 2013 | Jessica Chasmar
The former mayor of London took to Press TV, an Iranian state-run network, recently to express his disdain for the Bush White House and his assurance that the Boston Marathon bombings were brought upon the United States because of its injustices abroad.

And this is a doozy:

Would-be mayor seeks to make London ‘beacon’ of Islam Times247 ^ | March 20, 2012 | Andrew Gilligan
Ken Livingstone has promised to turn London into a “beacon” for the words of the Prophet Mohammed in a sermon at one of the capital’s most controversial mosques. Mr Livingstone, Labour’s candidate for mayor of London, pledged to “educate the mass of Londoners” in Islam, saying: “That will help to cement our city as a beacon that demonstrates the meaning of the words of the Prophet.” Mr Livingstone described Mohammed’s words in his last sermon as “an agenda for all humanity.” He praised the Prophet’s last sermon, telling his audience: “I want to spend the next four years making sure...


37 posted on 08/03/2017 9:50:24 AM PDT by piasa
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To: PapaBear3625

So London keeps electing mayors that think like Bill DeBlasio.

SMH


38 posted on 08/03/2017 9:53:03 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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[Would-be mayor seeks to make London ‘beacon’ of Islam Times247 ^ | March 20, 2012 | Andrew Gilligan
Ken Livingstone has promised to turn London into a “beacon” for the words of the Prophet Mohammed in a sermon at one of the capital’s most controversial mosques. Mr Livingstone, Labour’s candidate for mayor of London, pledged to “educate the mass of Londoners” in Islam, saying: “That will help to cement our city as a beacon that demonstrates the meaning of the words of the Prophet.” Mr Livingstone described Mohammed’s words in his last sermon as “an agenda for all humanity.” He praised the Prophet’s last sermon, telling his audience: “I want to spend the next four years making sure...]

Spirit of antichrist. Shining darkness all over the world.


39 posted on 08/03/2017 9:54:47 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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To: TMA62
The people voted for socialism.

The people always vote for socialism.

Maybe they don't want this guy, in particular, but they would have voted for a different socialist.

This is a problem. A problem we don't even begin to have a solution for.

40 posted on 08/03/2017 9:58:28 AM PDT by riri
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