Did America Surrender on 9/11?

American Thinker.com ^ | August 28, 2017 | Shari Goodman

[buckalfa]

Sometimes the option to do nothing in reprisal abroad has merit. The surrender was America's refusal to remove the terrorists and those who support terrorism from our nation. I have always wondered what hold do the Saudi’s have on America's leadership.

[Cubs Fan]

The day after it happened we should have stopped all immigration. That is what a country that wants to survive would have done.

[b4its2late]

Liberals and Democrats have.

Exactly.

[originalbuckeye]

We need a larger voice in Big Media. A few months after the San Bernardino terrorist attack, I was talking with my Far-Left brother. I said something about the San Bernardino attack and he asked ‘what happened in San Bernardino?’. I explained the whole thing to him and his response was ‘I heard the Government was trying to break into someone’s IPhone, but didn’t know why’. (Of course, he’s an Oregonian) He STILL defended the Islamists, so I suspect he will never learn. But I do believe that many people, if given the TRUTH, would start paying attention to the actual problem in this country.

[veracious]

Unfortunately, USA surrendered to the pretend we are just a religion, religion. Spending trillions of dollars to fight the result of the religion, then ramming them into our neighborhoods by the hundreds of thousands. Pretending they are _refugees_. USA, esp. DC has gone completely mad.

[Kaslin]

You are nothing but a troll who fell for a photoshop picture

President Bush did not kiss King Abdallah on the mouth, neither did the king kiss President Bush on the mouth but on the cheek which was a sign of friendship.

As far as the lower photo goes President Bush showed respect to the 84 year old Saudi King by helping him walk which your hero that arrogant pos former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania knows nothing about.

Oh there is this one when President Bush helped Senator Byrd walk down the stairs out of the respect for the old and ill senator

He rather let an elderly person walk down the steps by himself, or bow to a Saudi king

Here is your hero bowing to the Saudi king

[Kaslin]

We? Who is we? I sure didn’t vote for that arrogant pos

[Jaysin]

Wow. Very powerfully written. And friggin scary too. Although their will be undescribable bloodshed to solve this problem, I think the fit will hit the shan before the point of no return and we’ll win. If not, then Waterworld and mad max will be the way of the world.

[SandRat]

Nor did I!

[Jaysin]

Oh actually yes he did. In oct 93, osama was next door to somalia in the sudan. He saw America pack up and walk away after our soldiers were dragged through the streets—from that moment on, he started waging war againat the US and we did nothing—khobhar towers, uss cole, embassy bombings etc...

He knew we were a paper tiger and pulled off 9/11. He clearly said at least twice in his post 9/11 cave speeches that he said it will be like somalia all over again.

[Bratch]

[Kaslin]

You are nothing but a troll who fell for a photoshop picture

President Bush did not kiss King Abdallah on the mouth, neither did the king kiss President Bush on the mouth but on the cheek which was a sign of friendship.

As far as the lower photo goes President Bush showed respect to the 84 year old Saudi King by helping him walk which your hero that arrogant pos former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania knows nothing about.

Oh there is this one when President Bush helped Senator Byrd walk down the stairs out of the respect for the old and ill senator

He rather let an elderly person walk down the steps by himself, or bow to a Saudi king

Here is your hero bowing to the Saudi king

By bowing to the Saudi king, that arrogant pos former occupant of Pennsylvania Ave proved beyond a doubt that he is a Muslim, and by bowing to the Japanese emperor proves that he is not an American citizen and both the bowing to a Saudi King and to the Japanese emperor have nothing to do with respect.

[DesertRhino]

Basically yes. Bush imported 800,000 moslems and increased Saudi student visas 16 fold. Then Obama let in at least another 800,000 and probably more in that last year.

So yeah, we didn’t nuke Mecca and Riyadh, and we brought in close to 2 million of the enemy religion. Then our government went on a 16 year jihad to protect the good name of Islam. Bush held the Saudi kings hand, Obama bowed, and now Trump went scurrying to visit them and proclaim how good of friends they are. So yeah, we clearly surrendered.

Both Bush, and the black Bush who followed him did.

[DesertRhino]

Those photos are sickening. Why do American presidents do that these days? Can anyone imagine Truman or Reagan kissing a man?
Why do we always have to do their tradition? Why isn’t that medieval monarch told, “look king, don’t try to kiss an American president or hold his hand. He’ll think you are a homosexual”.?

[DesertRhino]

“Liberals, progs, leftists of all stripes make it almost impossible to speak out against the moslem pestilence”

And bought off republican whores who like Saudi money. And our Generals who have gone Asiatic, developing Islamic sympathies and hating Israel. Like Mattis, like McMaster, etc.

[DesertRhino]

The actual photo of him with his mouth an inch away from that fat farting potentate was already bad enough without the photoshop.
As for kissing on the cheek being a sign of friendship, maybe over there. Here... its a sign of foggotry and someone should have told that king all about how to act before he came here.

Or are you one of those who believes that Americans should always follow the social norms of the visitors, but they never have to follow ours?

[Kaslin]

You obviously have no problem with that arrogant former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave bowing to the Saudi King and the Japanese Emperor

[Garth Tater]

The question that needed to be raised then and now is why would a sitting President, who promised to secure our country from within and without, provide cover for those who perpetrated the attack against us?

Islam has at it's core the requirement issued by allah to wage war on the non-believers until the entire world is brought to submission. In response to this requirement to wage war on us we have three possible choices.

1. Exterminate them. This would be tough for us to do as there are over a billion of them. We could do it but we would have to be united in this effort as the bloodshed would be horrendous and stopping halfway through would be the worst possible thing we could do.

2. Wage a battle of containment against islam and hope that they as a civilization eventually grow-up. Other religions have undergone reformations and islam has, at times, shown a few moves in this direction. Ataturk's temporary reformation of Turkish society for example. This is the carrot and stick approach, with a big stick. Unfortunately, there is only a short time frame to try this approach as as soon as Iran becomes a credible nuclear threat this one goes off the table.

3. Make nice with them while trying to nudge them towards this reformation. This involves working with and supporting the islamic reformers wherever they can be found. This was obviously President Bush's plan of action.

Bush failed, but he did make a legitimate choice. If he had succeed he would be a hero - but he didn't and now he is reviled. Maybe if he had been a bit more honest with us as to what he was doing we would now be cutting him a little slack but that's all water under the bridge - it's now time for a new path and an end to this religion of piece crap. Whatever we do (#1 or #2) naming our enemy for what it is is a very important first step. Time for our leaders to step up and say the words - "Islam is evil and must reform or die."


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[minnesota_bound]

The democrats sided with the enemy just as they did with the communists.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

There’s 1A. Wage relentless war on them. Kill enough of them and degrade their abilities to the extent that they don’t dare raise a sword against us again. Historical examples include Germany and Japan post WW II.

But, as you say, there is little time left to do this and nobody in the world has the stomach for it.